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[LifeSize]

ok so I want to inject...like TODAY.. I'm on DNP right now, and I don't think it will affect anything. I only plan to be on for 10 days today being the 4th. I plan to run DNP again after PCT if needed..

You guys think I should run the Test Cyp for like 6-8 weeks, then do the last 5-6 weeks with the Tren added? (reasoning below)..

Being my first run, it would make it so the first few weeks I'm doing 2-3 injects a week..

I'll be able to tell if the Test causes any reaction, or if the Tren does..

I have Prop 10cc of 100mg/ml, I was going to use it to close out the cycle but I would like to front load if I start with just the Test.

Lets go, you guys need to gimme teh feed back.. I'm thinking out loud..

Also, tren ace can go in the same syringe as test prop/cyp so it's only one poke to inject??

[Fraggle]

This is what I'd plan...

Weeks 1-12
test cyp
tren ace
test prop -- front load for first 2 weeks

Then kick into PCT.

During the course of your cycle the levels of SHBG are going to increase, making the tren more ineffective if you only use it later in the cycle. Plus, the test prop and tren ace give you near immediate impact from the cycle. Your strength will go up in a matter of days, and I see definition and size after one week.

Of course, this isn't going to give you the benefit of trying each compound on it's own to assess impact on you. But to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced this is necessary...

The one thing I'd be careful of is aromatase activity. I know you've been working hard to get body fat percent down. This is particularly important with a long estered testosterone as adipose tissue and the long ester have significantly higher aromatase activity, meaning more estradiol. I'd make absolutely sure to have an AI on hand if you need it. I really like aromasin, as it doesn't cause the same estrogenic rebound seen with arimidex or letro when you get into or past PCT. It also takes ~7 days to get to peak steady state plasma levels, making it possible to start concurrently with your testosterone.

Good luck! You've been working hard to get to this!

[Lizard King]

I dunno about the Tren Ace and DNP. Tren makes me sweat pretty bad and so does the DNP, I could only imagine night sweats on both of them, just my opinion.

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by Fraggle

This is what I'd plan...

Weeks 1-12
test cyp
tren ace
test prop -- front load for first 2 weeks

Then kick into PCT.

During the course of your cycle the levels of SHBG are going to increase, making the tren more ineffective if you only use it later in the cycle. Plus, the test prop and tren ace give you near immediate impact from the cycle. Your strength will go up in a matter of days, and I see definition and size after one week.

Of course, this isn't going to give you the benefit of trying each compound on it's own to assess impact on you. But to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced this is necessary...

The one thing I'd be careful of is aromatase activity. I know you've been working hard to get body fat percent down. This is particularly important with a long estered testosterone as adipose tissue and the long ester have significantly higher aromatase activity, meaning more estradiol. I'd make absolutely sure to have an AI on hand if you need it. I really like aromasin, as it doesn't cause the same estrogenic rebound seen with arimidex or letro when you get into or past PCT. It also takes ~7 days to get to peak steady state plasma levels, making it possible to start concurrently with your testosterone.

Good luck! You've been working hard to get to this!

Yea I wanted to cut down some more on the fat but I don't think I'll be able to with temptation sitting on the counter. Lol.. I have plenty of Nolva, Adex, and Dostinex.. You think rebound is that bad from the Adex?

Crap, now you have me worried about the E.. Worst case I can run 10mg Nolva during cycle..bump it up if need be, and add some Clomid to my PCT so it's still effective..

Originally Posted by Lizard King

I dunno about the Tren Ace and DNP. Tren makes me sweat pretty bad and so does the DNP, I could only imagine night sweats on both of them, just my opinion.

I'm on day 4 and my sweating is nil, I assume in another 48hrs I'd be sweating lots.. I don't really care though, I can stop taking it now, and do my first inject in the morning.

Guys, I'm still undecided on my injection schedule.. Trying to keep things level, with the least amount of shots (EOD?)..

[LifeSize]

Also wouldn't doing Tren and Cyp EOD eliminate the need for the Prop load? I mean the Tren will be immediate and in like 7-10 days the Cyp should be very well loaded which means it should start being effective somewhat by my 2nd injection...5-7 days.. Right?

[LifeSize]

Fuck it, feel free to not post in here again.. I'm decided on the following.

No more DNP. So the 200mg I took this morning will be it, I won't be taking my 200mg this evening.

I will be injecting a total of 1.5cc into my Upper Left Quad - it's easier to work there for a first time righty.. I may just have my baby momma dart me in the ass before she goes to sleep tonight...she is up and out way to early for me so we'll see - I really want to do it in the AM a little after I wake up..

1cc of Tren Acetate
0.5cc of Test Cyp
all mixed in the same syringe..all shot in the same spot..I will continue with EOD shots the rest of the 12 weeks..

no prop front load just to save me the trouble and the gear..I'm assuming the Tren should do a decent job of making me feel it right away.. I sorta don't want to waste 10cc of Prop :P

I only have 23ga syringes, and I only have like 12 of them right now, so thats really only 6 injections since I plan to use one to extract from both bottles and another to inject myself... Should I wait till I can get some pins? I can drive up to the next county and grab what I need, in FL there is no law against needles but there is in my county..

The needle shit is irrelevant, I can just call a buddy up and he will give me some..

So yea, that's that.. Tomorrow is my big day.

[Fraggle]

I think your plan sounds good.

Get your syringes ASAP, but as long as you can get them in the next week you should be OK.

Start a new log!

[solo47]

Talk, talk, talk. I'll believe it when I see it.

I began Sunday, when you had said you would. My veins are already standing out and the quiet self-confidence of feeling that secret "fire in the belly" are already well under way.

Solo

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by solo47

Talk, talk, talk. I'll believe it when I see it.

I began Sunday, when you had said you would. My veins are already standing out and the quiet self-confidence of feeling that secret "fire in the belly" are already well under way.

Solo

Buahaha.. Your late bro!! Check out the thread I made with my log, I injected for the first time 3hrs ago :P

[solo47]

Originally Posted by LifeSize

Buahaha.. Your late bro!! Check out the thread I made with my log, I injected for the first time 3hrs ago :P

Alright then. All systems "go". It's great when you take something and it actually works.

Solo