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Old 02-17-2008, 01:52 PM
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Default Terminated cycle due to gyno! Opinions needed.

I was a week and a half into a test/tren cycle and had to stop do to a rediculous amount of pain and swelling in both nipples. The cycle was as follows:

week 1
Test E frontload 1000mg
Tren Ace 50mg ed
arimidex .5mg eod

week 2
Test E 400mg
Tren Ace 50mg ed
Arimidex .5 eod

I have done probably 7-8 cycles in my life, mostly test/tren and I've used some winny. Those are the only three drugs I've ever used. I havent done a cycle in a good three years. I had some pre-existing gyno, a lump under my right nipple. It was something that was only noticeable to me. I figured that with the arimidex I would not exasurbate the problem.

Last tuesday my nipples started really hurting to the point where just having a shirt on bothered me. Just wearing a seat belt while driving was painful. So I bumped up my arimidex to 1mg on tuesday. Wednesday the pain was still bad, I took another 1mg. Thursday I decided to terminate the cycle and havent injected since wednesday night. I've been taking 1mg a-dex/day since. I have also been taking 500mg of B-6/day since tuesday. Last night they were still killing me, this morning there isnt much pain but I havent really done much yet. The pain usually starts in the afternoon.

The a-dex is obviously not helping. I've got some Femara in the mail, should be here anyday. Obviously terminating the cycle was the last thing I wanted to do but the pain is unbearable. I have never felt nipple pain like that during any of my previous cycles.

Any thoughts/opinions? Did I do the right thing by terminating now? Thanks in advance.
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Default Re: Terminated cycle due to gyno! Opinions needed.

Winstol or Dostinex or femara is almost a necessity to have on hand while doing trenbolone....some people are very sensitive to it.

Also, it is highly likely this is gyno is caused by progesterone, so use that femara when you get it, with femara I think you could consider restarting your cycle with a hefty dose of femara and a light dose of tren.
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Winstol or Dostinex or femara is almost a necessity to have on hand while doing trenbolone....some people are very sensitive to it.

Also, it is highly likely this is gyno is caused by progesterone, so use that femara when you get it, with femara I think you could consider restarting your cycle with a hefty dose of femara and a light dose of tren.
Testosterone aromatizes into estrogren, which becomes estrodiol & progesterone & may cause female physical characteristics like breast tissue growth & lactation.

Trenabolone may cause excess prolactin that won't cause breast tissue growth but will cause lactation.

Never had either, so don't know which one hurts the worst. If Arimidex wasn't working it either was not Adex or it was prolactin (not progesterone) causing your problems. If the latter, use cabergoline (dostinex).

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I would use the Femara (Letro) immediately. As solo stated cabergoline (dostinex) is great as well.
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FYI this is real a-dex. Made by astra-zeneca...
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Testosterone aromatizes into estrogren, which becomes estrodiol & progesterone & may cause female physical characteristics like breast tissue growth & lactation.

Trenabolone may cause excess prolactin that won't cause breast tissue growth but will cause lactation.

Never had either, so don't know which one hurts the worst. If Arimidex wasn't working it either was not Adex or it was prolactin (not progesterone) causing your problems. If the latter, use cabergoline (dostinex).

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heh.. that reminds me of that episode of American Dad where the alien dude is milking..

I guess Letro is your answer.. I am a little worried about my cycle though, I wanted to run adex at .5mg eod to avoid bloat and keep gyno very much at bay.. This is like the 3rd post I see about folks not getting results from it.. Dunno..
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heh.. that reminds me of that episode of American Dad where the alien dude is milking..

I guess Letro is your answer.. I am a little worried about my cycle though, I wanted to run adex at .5mg eod to avoid bloat and keep gyno very much at bay.. This is like the 3rd post I see about folks not getting results from it.. Dunno..
Adex is not as effective in not estrogen converting compounds, Deca, tren being the main two. When running at high doses, the adex will not work 100% What you are going to take are both test derivatives (EQ more of a dbol derivative) but they will both be managed well by Adex
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Adex is not as effective in not estrogen converting compounds, Deca, tren being the main two. When running at high doses, the adex will not work 100% What you are going to take are both test derivatives (EQ more of a dbol derivative) but they will both be managed well by Adex
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I would try nolvadex. It could be the test causing it 1000mg. I had onset of gyno last cycle with test and deca and tried, femara, cabor and didn't do much. Nolvadex killed it right away. Then I did novla for pct. Then my next cycle with tren and test no gyno whatsoever probably from the residual nolvadex during pct numerous months before although I did take aromidex. .
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If what he is experiencing is from the Tren, then Nolva wont help. Nolva blocks estrogen in the breast tissues to stop GYNO. If it was from the tren, then it was prolactin and you were about to start lactating. The same way a womans breast REALLY heart when they are breast feeding, it is the same sensation. That sort of pain is a good indicator of that, where as uncomfort and itchiness is more of a sign of gyno.
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