test-c Raises my bP

[5k|/\/ /\/ Y]

i have stopped taking aas after only bout 2 weeks into my first cycle as the test-c raises my bp and makes me feel really weird. has any one ever experienced this?

[MrBman]

whats your eating like? how are you training? how much test are you taking? what are you stacking it with? do you ever do cardio? do you drink enough water? are you taking anything like ephedrine? how is your sodium intake? i gaurantee you atleast one of those factors is causing your high bloodpressure ...

[solo47]

You may already have had high BP, but didn't know it. Test might do it, though.

However, I agree with MrBman that it could be other factors. I know whenever I use ephedrine (before every workout) my BP goes into the red zone. But, you know, it comes right back down later.

Solo

[advanced-stealth]

Some good questions MrB asks. And Solo is right as well Test might be a factor in cause BP to increase.

Were you testing you BP before and after starting Test?

[jmills]

um, I hate to be the one to state the obvious...but test c takes a lot longer than two weeks to even start to manifest any noticeable affects. so, unless you are taking 2 grams a week I can't see how this could cause bp issues. was your bp consistently hi or did you take one or two readings and go from that? as far as feeling "weird"...if you mean different, like horny, a general sense of well being, a core of agression I can tap into or turn off at will, killer pumps and an end to DOMS, then hell yeah it makes me feel "weird" too!
were you using an oral to frontload? D-bol makes me bloated and puffy as hell from about wk 3 on...also plays hell with my bp, but fuck it...you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, right?

[role model]

Originally Posted by 5k|/\/ /\/ Y

i have stopped taking aas after only bout 2 weeks into my first cycle as the test-c raises my bp and makes me feel really weird. has any one ever experienced this?

If it makes you feel weird just send it to me.
Mine is borderline high when I'm on a cycle.

[musle mafia]

I know this was already said but the test cyp run for two weeks couldn't have done a damn thing to your blood preasure yet. Test cyp has a very long half life it had barely started to take effect. Did you have your blood preasure checked prior? Did you have blood work done prior? I think your being parinoid. Suck that shit up man. Watch your sodium intake, drink plenty of water, stay away from energy drinks or thing that speed up your heart rate. there is some other underlying problem it's not the test cyp. I be willling to bet on it.

[role model]

Originally Posted by musle mafia

I know this was already said but the test cyp run for two weeks couldn't have done a damn thing to your blood preasure yet. Test cyp has a very long half life it had barely started to take effect. Did you have your blood preasure checked prior? Did you have blood work done prior? I think your being parinoid. Suck that shit up man. Watch your sodium intake, drink plenty of water, stay away from energy drinks or thing that speed up your heart rate. there is some other underlying problem it's not the test cyp. I be willling to bet on it.

Lets get one thing straight right now.
Two weeks is long enough to start affecting your BP.
So you guys that say it hasn't been long enough are flat out wrong.
Test cyp or enanthate both can cause BP problems in two weeks.
Just because your not seeing the muscle building effects yet has
nothing to do with the BP effect. JMILLS, your stating the obvious theory has a hole in it.

The fact is, the day you inject it can cause a rise in your BP.

[musle mafia]

Originally Posted by role model

Lets get one thing straight right now.
Two weeks is long enough to start affecting your BP.
So you guys that say it hasn't been long enough are flat out wrong.
Test cyp or enanthate both can cause BP problems in two weeks.
Just because your not seeing the muscle building effects yet has
nothing to do with the BP effect. JMILLS, your stating the obvious theory has a hole in it.

The fact is, the day you inject it can cause a rise in your BP.

I don't deny you might be right role but that's news to me but now you've got me interested in this alittle more now. I've never heard that before anywhere or understand exactly how it could raise it a siginifigant amount that qiuckly without some kind of underlying bp problem already. Hey if I am wrong it wouldn't be the first thing I bet on something and was wrong Role if you can explain this a little deeper I'd love to know more about why and how it can raise it that quickly with such long ester as cyp. I love to learn more and more about AAS and if I'm wrong I don't mind being corrected. The last thing I ever want to do is give bad advice. So fill my head with some new info brother so next time I don't fuck up my ansewer because i love the furom and plan on sticking around for a while but I'm only 28 and have only been doing AAS for 5 years and i know some of you guys are much older and have been around AAS longer than me. I'm just one of those people who try to research the hell out of everything I do exspecially something such as AAS before I take it but I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything but I'd like to so if you can help me understand this better I'd appreciate it

[jmills]

Role, I too would like to see how such a long esther could affect BP in such a short period of time. I agree that the MUSCLE BUILDING qualities take a long time to have an affect...but my thinking (and everyone else I've ever heard discuss this) goes something like this: The many different effects of AAS will manifest themselves when the esther is released and absorbed in the body. So, Test P will manifest "short term" effects like High BP, increased Protein synthesis, increased red blood cell production, etc, etc. much quicker than longer Esthers like Test E or C. Conversly, longer esther's will manifest those effects as well...but not until those esthers are released.

I mean, to your body you just injected sesame oil (or whatever)...until those esthers are released. This is the way these drugs were designed to work, after all.

Now, I know that when I first started pinning my BP probably went thru the damn roof...but then, I'm a pussy and I've always been afraid of needles
I guess I can see that you COULD release a few BP raising re-agents in your blood stream as a reaction to foreign material being introduced intravenously...but I wouldnt call that the result of the Test.
Role, it just does not make sense to me that he couold be having BP issues from the test at just 2 weeks in....hell, even frontloading with 1 gram/wk the only thing I get at 2 weeks is a sore delt or two and I'm prone to BP issues. My wife even bought me one of those automatic BP machines for the house so I can keep an eye on it. So, no disrespect intended...but I think you got this one wrong bro. Maybe I'm full of shit...probably I'm full of shit...But I do have an open mind...and I would love to hear your reasoning.

Oh yeah...if we are discussing FACTS and not OPINIONS please site the scientific studies you are referencing so we can all read them as well.

Regards,
jmills

[role model]

1) Testosterone esters in Cyponate start releasing immediately, the first 1/2 life is about 10 days which means 1/2 of your 1st shot has already come and gone. That means it has been released in your system. Skinny was doing injections for 2 weeks at 2 shots a week thats 5 shots he already took. if day 1 was shot 1.

2) Why don't you go on the mens forum and ask anyone with low T if they can feel anything from there shot the first day. They will all tell you they feel a sense of well being. That means its in your system already at work.

3) I spent about 10 seconds researching "Test Cypionate immediate reactions" and came up with this:

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Cypionate:
Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; high blood pressure; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, eyes or tongue)
If any of these can happen right after you take a shot, that means its in your system doing something to cause the problem.

[role model]

Originally Posted by jmills

Oh yeah...if we are discussing FACTS and not OPINIONS please site the scientific studies you are referencing so we can all read them as well.

Regards,
jmills

I just reread your post and seen this at the end and my answer to that is, if anyone thinks test cyp just floats around in your system for a month after you inject it before it starts doing something shouldn't be giving medical advice.

Below came off the Pfizer website for there Test Cyp they make and sell.

Precautions:
Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Cypionate:
Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; high blood pressure; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, eyes or tongue)

[taser]

negative effects of testosterone can manifest in as little as 2 weeks. as far as blood pressure,either he already had borderline high or he is retaining alot of water. water retention can obviously raise bp. also,how much test is he using? a low sodium.low fat/sugar diet with cardio should alleviate high bp in most people rather quickly.

[musle mafia]

Originally Posted by role model

I just reread your post and seen this at the end and my answer to that is, if anyone thinks test cyp just floats around in your system for a month after you inject it before it starts doing something shouldn't be giving medical advice.

Below came off the Pfizer website for there Test Cyp they make and sell.

Precautions:
Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Cypionate:
Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; high blood pressure; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, eyes or tongue)

Role I'm not trying to argue here or get into a big debate over this but what your saying about about immediate reaction has to do with allergic reactions and a normal reaction. Of course it takes effect in the amount of time it takes to past through your muscle tissue into your blood and processed by the rest of your body. My main point was the amount of test working after two weeks shouldn't be enough to raise your blood preasure majorly in two weeks. If you have an allergic reaction sure it will. From what I understand about having an allergic reaction to test yes you'll notice the reaction very quickly but as for someone whom it effects normally. I can't find any info as where it's processed to increase your blood preasure faster than the half life. So with cyp being around 10 days. The first shot would have been fully broken down by the body. So it would be in full effect. I just don't believe that it would do enough from that dose to cause a problem without an exsisting bp issue. That was kind of my point. We all know that it does increase your bp so of course it will make a difference but the amount of test in your system after two weeks of cyp shouldn't cause a problem without a bp issue already. Allergic reactions aren't in no way the same as a normal reaction so what you listed is kind of irrelevant to the topic.

[role model]

Originally Posted by musle mafia

From what I understand about having an allergic reaction to test yes you'll notice the reaction very quickly but as for someone whom it effects normally. I can't find any info as where it's processed to increase your blood preasure faster than the half life. So with cyp being around 10 days. The first shot would have been fully broken down by the body. So it would be in full effect. I just don't believe that it would do enough from that dose to cause a problem without an exsisting bp issue. That was kind of my point. We all know that it does increase your bp so of course it will make a difference but the amount of test in your system after two weeks of cyp shouldn't cause a problem without a bp issue already. Allergic reactions aren't in no way the same as a normal reaction so what you listed is kind of irrelevant to the topic.

I'm not trying to argue with you either It was jmills I responded to.
So what diagnosis did you do to assume it is affecting him normally?
Obviously no one would get high blood pressure if there was not some type reaction happening to cause HBP..
You can explain you theory till your fingers bleed but you guys are WRONG. It can happen / and it did. So why argue?
I wish that Dumas Skinney who started this thread would show up to see the responses and answer some questions?
I'm out!

[chap]

role model is correct

for those of you that think that testosterone cypionate doesn't have effects for at least a week or so, you need to look at some charts of the dynamics of that ester

within 1 day of a shot of testosterone cypionate, your blood levels of testosterone are way up and reaching a peak level within 2 days followed by a slow decay

[jmills]

okay, I think mm and myself were trying to make the same point: that the test is most likely not the issue here. could it be an allergic reaction? yes, to the test or something else in the shot. and role and others have a good point...but there is just no way im buying that he got such a massive reaction to a reasonable dose of test c in 2 weeks that it would significantly increase his bp to the degree that he should abandon the cycle. I even qualified my original post by saying as long as he's not pinning 2 grams a week I can't see it. so I get the whole test release profile. and I realize everyone is different. IMO there just has to be another underlying issue...but hey, I just do my thing.

[role model]

Originally Posted by jmills

okay, I think mm and myself were trying to make the same point: that the test is most likely not the issue here. could it be an allergic reaction? yes, to the test or something else in the shot. and role and others have a good point...but there is just no way im buying that he got such a massive reaction to a reasonable dose of test c in 2 weeks that it would significantly increase his bp to the degree that he should abandon the cycle. I even qualified my original post by saying as long as he's not pinning 2 grams a week I can't see it. so I get the whole test release profile. and I realize everyone is different. IMO there just has to be another underlying issue...but hey, I just do my thing.

You guys are something,
You said test is most likely not the issue, but it could be an allergic reaction?
DAH!
caused by the test.

I could care less if you buy it or not. Fact is it happened.
Just like,
I seen a person who breaks out when he just smells peanut butter.
Whether you believe it or not is not the case, fact is, its the TRUTH!

[chap]

high blood pressure from the test itself is very likely the culprit here, I really doubt the allergy idea

some people aromatize test much quicker than others too, so estrogen can really add to blood pressure with water retention, and it can easily happen in the time frame he mentioned

[musle mafia]

Originally Posted by role model