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Old 11-27-2004, 02:03 AM
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Well Im going down south to get gear for my first cycle next week. I'll be running 500mg test enan and 300mg Deca for 10 weeks. Ive heard that test can cause hair loss in some because it turns to DHT. Now Im 31 (6'3" 185ibs) and have had not had hairloss so far.( Slight thinning compared to age 21 but still a full head of hair and no family history) should I pick up some Propecia while Im down there or should I not be concerned. Should I take some and If I do take it should I continue after the cycle or can I stop?
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Old 11-27-2004, 12:06 PM
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i think test will cause hair loss in everyone to some degree. may not even be noticeable. i run 1 mg finasteride (propecia) when i am off and while on, i take 2.5mg daily just to be sure. the cycle i am on now i have also added 2% nizoral shampoo. too early to tell if that helps as i have only been on 2 weeks. whateveryou decide, good luck with your hair and your cycle.
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if you are not genetically inclined to lose your hair,test will do nothing to your hair . that said,very high doses could still have an effect. i use 100-125 mgs per week as replacement and have absolutely NO hairloss.i am 38.
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I would take percaution with any side effects possible. Better safe than sorry theory. Unfortunately I have learned the hard way on some. My fucking hair thinned hard core due to 600 wk primo. I had to stop cycle short. I have been told if I continue using nizoral 1% shampoo daily that it will grow back. I also bought some Nisim shampoo and gel extract to help. I was told that I need not to worry with using propecia due to know history in faimly.
Basically I am nervous as hell because my hair looks like shit wet. Thank god its not summer but I due plan on travelling and fucking hoes in hot tubs.

Please someone give me some direction. Will my hair begin to grow back strong once my system is back to norm. Am I cool or do I need to go the hair doc and explain my situation?

thanks in advance for insight.
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I would take percaution with any side effects possible. Better safe than sorry theory. Unfortunately I have learned the hard way on some. My fucking hair thinned hard core due to 600 wk primo. I had to stop cycle short. I have been told if I continue using nizoral 1% shampoo daily that it will grow back. I also bought some Nisim shampoo and gel extract to help. I was told that I need not to worry with using propecia due to know history in faimly.
Basically I am nervous as hell because my hair looks like shit wet. Thank god its not summer but I due plan on travelling and fucking hoes in hot tubs.

Please someone give me some direction. Will my hair begin to grow back strong once my system is back to norm. Am I cool or do I need to go the hair doc and explain my situation?

thanks in advance for insight.
the only reason i would suggest going to a doc now is you have to wonder, how much more will you lose if you wait? a lot of guyswill tell you to just rock the dome, but fuck that. i have hair halfway down my back and i dont want to lose anymore than i have to. i was taking propecia for a little over a year and could finally yank on it and not lose any. then i did my first cycle and shedded a bunch. it still comes out when i brush it but most of that i chalk up to the knots in long hair. i have no sides from propecia, actually it is fincar which is a generic of proscar. pm me if you need a link to get it cheap. better safe than sorry. cause once it is all gone, it's gone.
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The only way you're really going to get your hair to grow back to a decent level is by taking 2.5mg of Finesteride ED, Xandrox 15 ED, and Dr. Mitchell's hair shampoo with 3% Nizoral and 3% Salacylic Acid www.xandrox.com I know this works from personal experience. If you have money then substitute the Finesteride for 1mg of Avodart (Dutersteride) ED. Costs $3 per .5mg soft gel, but is like 2-3 times stronger than Finesteride.

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I would take percaution with any side effects possible. Better safe than sorry theory. Unfortunately I have learned the hard way on some. My fucking hair thinned hard core due to 600 wk primo. I had to stop cycle short. I have been told if I continue using nizoral 1% shampoo daily that it will grow back. I also bought some Nisim shampoo and gel extract to help. I was told that I need not to worry with using propecia due to know history in faimly.
Basically I am nervous as hell because my hair looks like shit wet. Thank god its not summer but I due plan on travelling and fucking hoes in hot tubs.

Please someone give me some direction. Will my hair begin to grow back strong once my system is back to norm. Am I cool or do I need to go the hair doc and explain my situation?

thanks in advance for insight.
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Test will cause hairloss if you carry the MPB gene. I would take 1mg of Propecia just to be safe, but since you're taking Deca (which cannot be used with Propecia) I'd switch to boldenone or go to www.xandrox.com and use Dr. Mitchell's Xandrox 15 at night and his Shampoo every day instead. These two products are topical DHT blockers/Hairgrowth agents.

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Well Im going down south to get gear for my first cycle next week. I'll be running 500mg test enan and 300mg Deca for 10 weeks. Ive heard that test can cause hair loss in some because it turns to DHT. Now Im 31 (6'3" 185ibs) and have had not had hairloss so far.( Slight thinning compared to age 21 but still a full head of hair and no family history) should I pick up some Propecia while Im down there or should I not be concerned. Should I take some and If I do take it should I continue after the cycle or can I stop?
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Test will cause hairloss if you carry the MPB gene. I would take 1mg of Propecia just to be safe, but since you're taking Deca (which cannot be used with Propecia) I'd switch to boldenone or go to www.xandrox.com and use Dr. Mitchell's Xandrox 15 at night and his Shampoo every day instead. These two products are topical DHT blockers/Hairgrowth agents.
Why do you say you can't use deca and Propecia/Proscar. I'm using NPP and have used deca in the past, Ive been on proscar for years.............11
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It is well known the taking Finisteride with Deca reverses it's conversion from DHN to DHT (Finisteride is a 5-Alpha Recductase inhibitor so it only works for Test), exactly what you don't want. DHN is a 5X less androgenic than DHT that is why DECA by itself isn't too hard on the hairline, but if you mix it with Propecia you might as well be taking straight Testosterone. If you like DECA and you're taking Test a good compromise is EQ, Propecia won't adversly affect it.

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Why do you say you can't use deca and Propecia/Proscar. I'm using NPP and have used deca in the past, Ive been on proscar for years.............11
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If your gonna do any Test cycle you should use finastride,proscar not just for hair loss but for prostate health,remember this you can live a full life with no hair but if you fuck up your prostate it could be the end of your sex life or even your life.
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It is well known the taking Finisteride with Deca reverses it's conversion from DHN to DHT (Finisteride is a 5-Alpha Recductase inhibitor so it only works for Test), exactly what you don't want. DHN is a 5X less androgenic than DHT that is why DECA by itself isn't too hard on the hairline, but if you mix it with Propecia you might as well be taking straight Testosterone. If you like DECA and you're taking Test a good compromise is EQ, Propecia won't adversly affect it.
Thanks for the info, This is the first time I've used NPP(really like it) I quit using deca about 3-4 yrs ago because it made me break out on my back, I used EQ instead,( love EQ) But I never noticed any change in my hairline this cycle, I've been thinking about a change from proscar because I really believe it causes me to hold a little more fat around the lower mid section but I really like the ease of taking 1 pill a day. I'll probably go back to EQ..........11
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Are you taking Proscar 5mg ED? If so I would drop it to 2.5mg or lower and supplement with Xandrox 15 every evening and Dr. Mitchell's shampoo www.xandrox.com.

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Thanks for the info, This is the first time I've used NPP(really like it) I quit using deca about 3-4 yrs ago because it made me break out on my back, I used EQ instead,( love EQ) But I never noticed any change in my hairline this cycle, I've been thinking about a change from proscar because I really believe it causes me to hold a little more fat around the lower mid section but I really like the ease of taking 1 pill a day. I'll probably go back to EQ..........11
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Are you taking Proscar 5mg ED? If so I would drop it to 2.5mg or lower and supplement with Xandrox 15 every evening and Dr. Mitchell's shampoo www.xandrox.com.
No, I'm only taking 1mg ed. I've got a pill cutter and I cut it into 5 pieces. I started out with propecia and it was 1mg, of course I get the proscar for alot less $$. I'll ckech out the xandrox............11
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2.5mg (1/2 Proscar tab) will yield much better results (I know from years of trial and error). Also, even if you don't try the Xandrox 15, Dr. Mitchell's prescription shampoo is a must @ $13.95.

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No, I'm only taking 1mg ed. I've got a pill cutter and I cut it into 5 pieces. I started out with propecia and it was 1mg, of course I get the proscar for alot less $$. I'll ckech out the xandrox............11
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