Test-E/EQ cycle - MESO-Rx

streetgearz · #1 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 08:30 PM

This seems like the most informative board that I've found so far so I figured I'd get some tips for what I've planned. I'm 21 years old at 6'0 184lb with BF at 8-9%. I'm a hard gainer with a high metabolism. This will be my second cycle (first one was Sust 250 about a year ago). Unfortunately I made the mistake of jumping into a cycle and not truly understanding what I was doing last year. Fortunately I had no extreme sides except for a decreased libido which I eventually repaired. I'm now ready to do it the right way. After lots of reading I've come to this.

Test-E Week 1-11 500mg EW
EQ Week 1-10 400mg EW 2 shots/wk
HCG Week 9-13 500iu EOD
Proviron Week 9-16 50mg ED
Nolvadex Week 9-13 20mg ED
Clomid Week 13-16 50mg ED

Would it be needed to bump the EQ up to 600 mg/wk or will the 400mg get me be plenty for me. I know 400mg is the lowest people recommend but this will be my first stack.

jasthace · #2 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 09:56 PM

Looks like an alright.pretty boring cycle.
If you want a faster recovery ,don't use the long esters like EQ

streetgearz · #3 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 11:10 PM

what about dropping the EQ, bumping the test up to 750mg /wk, and taking 4 weeks of Dbol 20mg ED?

solo47 · #4 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by streetgearz

what about dropping the EQ, bumping the test up to 750mg /wk, and taking 4 weeks of Dbol 20mg ED?

Ignore the above.

Do you intend to inject Test e just once a week? It's acceptable if you do, but then why not inject the EQ once a week too? To be sure of steady levels most people inject twice a week.

EQ is a nice & fairly safe anabolic, so you can use it in your first cycle, but it's not usually recommended. First cycle protocol is 500 mg Test e or cyp EW, period. If you're looking for mass on your first cycle, like many are, you could just skip the EQ or use Deca instead. Your cycle is short for full EQ effects, too, but it does make for muscle hardness & vascularity.

Not sure what you expect to achieve with your Proviron. It's helpful on cycle but it certainly does not help your recovery during PCT. Some claim it doesn't hurt either, but I think that since Provi is a steroid it will at the very least slow your total recovery. It does make one feel good, however.

What will you do in the unlikely event you get itchy or painful nips during your cycle? I hope you have enough Nolva on hand to stop any minor symptoms. Arimidex works even better but you should be okay this time around.

I think you're too young to be doing more than working out hard and eating like a horse, but you probably wouldn't listen.

Solo

jasthace · #5 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 12:38 AM

EQ is a girls drug, go with the dbol.

Mr Wiggly · #6 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 01:47 AM

I guess im a sissy cause because I do lots of EQ, lol... and may I suggest to you to always run your EQ for a minimum of 12 weeks. The effects really dont even start until week 10. Also you need to run it between 600 and 800mg EW. For you 600 will be good. Always run your test at least a week longer than the EQ.

streetgearz · #7 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 03:37 AM

I had heard that I should take both proviron and nolva once i start the HCG. Would you suggest taking the .05mg of arimidex ED from the beginning instead? Honestly, my main concern is to eliminate any chances of a low libido and any chances of long term teste atrophy. There are so many different theories. I can't say money isn't a concern but i'd rather pay more and be safe than suffer the consequences of being cheap.

**Bigkarch** · #8 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 09:38 AM

eq is pretty mild.. and if I was going to take it, I would bump it up to 600 mg. but Im also a fan of dbol and would bump start that cycle with it.

dennis · #9 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetgearz

This seems like the most informative board that I've found so far so I figured I'd get some tips for what I've planned. I'm 21 years old at 6'0 184lb with BF at 8-9%. I'm a hard gainer with a high metabolism. This will be my second cycle (first one was Sust 250 about a year ago). Unfortunately I made the mistake of jumping into a cycle and not truly understanding what I was doing last year. Fortunately I had no extreme sides except for a decreased libido which I eventually repaired. I'm now ready to do it the right way. After lots of reading I've come to this.

Test-E Week 1-11 500mg EW
EQ Week 1-10 400mg EW 2 shots/wk
HCG Week 9-13 500iu EOD
Proviron Week 9-16 50mg ED
Nolvadex Week 9-13 20mg ED
Clomid Week 13-16 50mg ED

Would it be needed to bump the EQ up to 600 mg/wk or will the 400mg get me be plenty for me. I know 400mg is the lowest people recommend but this will be my first stack.

weeks 1-12 test 600 mgs
weeks 1-12 eq 600 mgs
hcg weeks 6 - 14
no need for provi
nolvdex weeks 14-18 maybe 20
PS..Eq works well for me..I am on 700 mgs weekly as we speak.

ChaseQ · #10 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 04:58 PM

Solo and Wiggley are right on about their EQ recommendations.

1. bump it up to 600mgs a week.
2. It will increase your appetite which will help you gain.
3. Increase your length of time on EQ. It takes forever to kick in. Wiggley was right on about it seeming like it takes 10 weeks for it to kick in. But when it does you'll love the results. Solid gains that are easy to maintain!

I love it!