Test Prop & Winnie

[EPOWER]

Can test prop and winnie be put in the same syringe?

E

[bobvongule]

You shouldn't mix the two. Since one is oil and one water based. Not to mention they both have a reputation for causing soreness. If the winny is in a 10ml bottle there is always a better chance for bacteria. I do not like mixing any 2 compounds together. It's too hard and sometimes too painful to find which one might be dirty. I feel putting the prop. in my dellts to be the most comforting. Very easy to massage if need be. If you get tired of sticking yourself you can always drink the winny.

[EPOWER]

Thats ok I will pass on drinking it. I am only running these the last 4 weeks of cycle. 100mg prop e/o day and 50mg winnie e/o day. Looks like i will just have lots of pin holes in me. I am ok with that , its for a good cause!

E

[dennis]

Originally Posted by EPOWER

Thats ok I will pass on drinking it. I am only running these the last 4 weeks of cycle. 100mg prop e/o day and 50mg winnie e/o day. Looks like i will just have lots of pin holes in me. I am ok with that , its for a good cause!

E

Hey E..great new avatar..Bet I know who she is ! About the prop/winstrol.....I know you are not supposed to but I add b-12 into my oil based anabolics on a weekly basis..I have never had a problem before.Do not drink the winstrol..inject it bro..but..and a big BUT..winstrol works much better taken daily...a big difference.

[EPOWER]

Originally Posted by dennis

Hey E..great new avatar..Bet I know who she is ! About the prop/winstrol.....I know you are not supposed to but I add b-12 into my oil based anabolics on a weekly basis..I have never had a problem before.Do not drink the winstrol..inject it bro..but..and a big BUT..winstrol works much better taken daily...a big difference.

Well its her. That was before her var/sust cycle . She looks much better now, I will get a new avatar very soon that was from JAN 2008. Im going to grab another 10ml of the winnie and do it 50mg every day and see how it works out. I have taking the tabs at 50mg per day but really did not notice it to much, I am pumped to use it this time.

E

[dennis]

Originally Posted by EPOWER

Well its her. That was before her var/sust cycle . She looks much better now, I will get a new avatar very soon that was from JAN 2008. Im going to grab another 10ml of the winnie and do it 50mg every day and see how it works out. I have taking the tabs at 50mg per day but really did not notice it to much, I am pumped to use it this time.

E

hey..She looks fine to me in the current pic bro ! The stano everyday injectable you will love.It got me leaner than any other steroid ever did.I had to use 18 gauge though ed for 8 weeks..talk about pain.

[EPOWER]

Originally Posted by dennis

hey..She looks fine to me in the current pic bro ! The stano everyday injectable you will love.It got me leaner than any other steroid ever did.I had to use 18 gauge though ed for 8 weeks..talk about pain.

What would make you even think about using 18g pin? Did you have redijects? I am going to do just fine with my nice little 22g pins!

E

[TheBeat]

Mix them if you want, they don't mix - but they do disperse.

It's a old-school fallicy saying you can't mix them, I've never understood the logic - do people think that the oil forms a protective shell around the water and keeps it from being absorbed? Or does the water somehow lock the oil in and fight be absorbed while holding the oil hostage? Listen, simple logic here, a shot of oil will be absorbed, a shot of water will be absorbed, both in the same area will be absorbed.

[dennis]

I am glad someone else is also busting the "capsulating theory"..I never really bought into it but just went along with everyone else and said do not do it(mix oil with water based).Like i said earlier i will add 2 ccs of b12 into my 1 cc of oil once per week.Also about my 18 gauge experience..I got the winstrol..vet grade..it came from a compounder in my area..I got my 22 gauge pins ready..went into bathroom..tried and tried to draw the winstrol into syringe with no luck.So the next day I went and got 20's..guess what,same thing..the winstrol was too thick to draw through the 20..well day 3 I went and got the 18's..OUCH.....but they worked x ed x 8 weeks..needless to say I am no longer afraid of needles.

[TheBeat]

Originally Posted by dennis

I am glad someone else is also busting the "capsulating theory"..I never really bought into it but just went along with everyone else and said do not do it(mix oil with water based).Like i said earlier i will add 2 ccs of b12 into my 1 cc of oil once per week.Also about my 18 gauge experience..I got the winstrol..vet grade..it came from a compounder in my area..I got my 22 gauge pins ready..went into bathroom..tried and tried to draw the winstrol into syringe with no luck.So the next day I went and got 20's..guess what,same thing..the winstrol was too thick to draw through the 20..well day 3 I went and got the 18's..OUCH.....but they worked x ed x 8 weeks..needless to say I am no longer afraid of needles.

I always mix, sometimes it's a pain as it gets a harder to tell what are air bubbles and what is the water and the water usually shoots through much faster than the oil (usually).

A tip I've found is to draw the oil and then the water and keep it bi-level rather than mixing it up it the syringe. The water will(should) go through rather easily/quickly and then slow when the oil hits, rather than having a fast/slow/fast/slow inject experience.

Yeah, compounded Winstrol doesn't draw/inject easily, I personally hate it as I hate those 18g harpoons, lol.

[Fraggle]

To clarify, it does not matter if you add an oil and water based injectable. They are obviously not going to mix in the syringe or in the depot. There is no cogent reason why they could not be combined.

Prop should never be painful. If it hurts, then you have not adjusted for BA, lack of BB or concentration. Look at my post:

How to prevent injection pain

As for winny... it's a suspended, micronised crystal. If it wasn't micronised very meticulously, it could be quite painful. I would use it more frequently with less volume to reduce the localised inflammation. But then again, I've never tried it, so that's simply guess work.

And yes, you are a lucky man E... maybe we should all use pictures of our wives as avatars.

Fraggle

[EPOWER]

Originally Posted by Fraggle

To clarify, it does not matter if you add an oil and water based injectable. They are obviously not going to mix in the syringe or in the depot. There is no cogent reason why they could not be combined.

Prop should never be painful. If it hurts, then you have not adjusted for BA, lack of BB or concentration. Look at my post:

How to prevent injection pain

As for winny... it's a suspended, micronised crystal. If it wasn't micronised very meticulously, it could be quite painful. I would use it more frequently with less volume to reduce the localised inflammation. But then again, I've never tried it, so that's simply guess work.

And yes, you are a lucky man E... maybe we should all use pictures of our wives as avatars.

Fraggle

Thanks for the help guys.
Hey if you got em show em off!!!!

E

[Zaven]

Originally Posted by bobvongule

You shouldn't mix the two. Since one is oil and one water based. Not to mention they both have a reputation for causing soreness. If the winny is in a 10ml bottle there is always a better chance for bacteria. I do not like mixing any 2 compounds together. It's too hard and sometimes too painful to find which one might be dirty. I feel putting the prop. in my dellts to be the most comforting. Very easy to massage if need be. If you get tired of sticking yourself you can always drink the winny.

lol...Just because one is oil and one is water has no significance as to whether they can be mixed or not.!! The oil is not gonna coat the winny hormone is some magical way and prevent it from being absorbed...wouldn't this happen to the Test, etc hormone as well..?..

Oh yeah and why would winny in a 10ml vial have a better chance for growing/ supporting bacteria...I'm just curious as to where this scientific knowledge is coming from..? I would like to learn this as well because IMO it's just an assumption by you.....but if I'm wrong could you please poing me in the right direction...

[bobvongule]

I never said you can't mix the two. I said you shouldn't mix the two. They do absorb at different rates. And no there is no forcefield around the winny. As for bacteria. Anything in a 10ml bottle has a greater chance for bacteria. You keep sticking foreign objects into the same bottle you have a better chance of contamination. Kinda like if you and 10 buddies are banging the same chick. You got a better chance of catching something. right? It's not my assumption and it may not be scientific it's a numbers game. However I did learn this lesson the hard way. With winny in a 10ml. That is why I stated my opinion. Thought I used every precaution. New needle, cotton balls, alcohol, stored in a cool dry place and I never shoot in the bathroom as it is the dirtiest room in the house. Shot number 6 of 10 caused an abcess on my right delt. Had to have my buddy drain it while I sat and cried on the toilet. Used (3) 18 guage pins. Thought maybe it was just a bad day so I tried it again with a 1/2 cc in my ass. Same result, only no draining. Still cringe when I see winny. Just like I do when I see Yukon Jack but that is for another message board.