Test and Tren for my first cycle. have questions

[James99]

Ok i will try and do my best to explain a little about me and my cycle that i will be picking up any day now and i am here to get help from you guys to maybe fill in anything i might be missing and i guess i have a few questions.
I am 25 years old 6ft tall and 224lbs and %15 body fat. I have been been lifting since i was 18 on and off. made good gains but i feel that i have reached my limit in size and need to do a cycle to reach my goal. for example my Bench is 315lbs x 6reps, squats 405lbs x 6reps, military press 255lbs x 12reps, my back is pretty strong to. Arms are shity i guess that is my main reason for wanting to do this cycle. Triceps are decent but my biceps are horrible, 16.5 inch arms only

This will be my First real cycle and i say that becasue in the past i took deca and that was by itself so nothing big. I am getting Tren but not sure what kind of tren it is yet. i am hoping its Ace becasue it is my first time. I am pretty sure the Test is test prop. I have taken plenty of pro hormones in the past and i am just saying just so you guys know i have taken some what of a potent supps before.

My Concerns are how long should I use the Tren and how long i should stay on the test since i am kinda new at this. This is what i am thinking about right now-

TREN- 70mg eod or should i do 50mg ed (should i go 6 or 8 weeks with Tren?)
TEST- 400mg a week (planning on 10 weeks of test)
I have clen and t3 i will use at the end.
Clomid and nolvadex i will figure out when to start it inless u guys feel like telling me since i am a noob.
Also i want to get blood work done before i start the cycle just to feel safe and i would like to learn what i am looking for in a blood test anyways. Plus back when i did Deca like 3 years ago i got nauseous and my heart developed some kind of heart murmur or irregular heart beat, it was weird.
I have good multi vitamins, fish oils, milk thistle and will probably be drinking lots of cranberry juice.
I plan on eating like a horse so i can get the most of this cycle. It will be clean foods and will be drinking plenty of water.
Sorry that was kind of long but i dont want to miss any details which i probably did. If you guys can help me on any adjustments i need to make or maybe add anything i would greatly appreciate it. Thank You

[chriswhat]

I would recommend only that you stay away from the tren for a long time, maybe forever. It is likely that if you developed tachycardia or something else with your heart while on deca, that the tren will do the same. If you read the boards long enough you start realizing that a lot of the guys that use tren have libido issues for a long long time. You can get everything you want from good test.

[James99]

Hmmm yes i was thinking of just doing the test but everyone just keeps saying how good the tren is. But if tren can give me the same problem deca did i will stay away form it. I will be reserching more of that wierd heart problem i experinced. Thanks for the info i appreciate it.

[bigrobbie]

Originally Posted by James99

Hmmm yes i was thinking of just doing the test but everyone just keeps saying how good the tren is. But if tren can give me the same problem deca did i will stay away form it. I will be reserching more of that wierd heart problem i experinced. Thanks for the info i appreciate it.

I just came off a my Tren, great strength gains, but look into what they call "Fina or Tren cough"

some debate as to it's cause, but it, for me, made my chest feel constricted and my heart feel

strained...keep in mind if you use Tren, WE ARE NOT CATTLE. The stuff can be very taxing on

the body.

[bigrobbie]

(Tren) cough is a possible side effect from Trenbolone use. The cough itself is not

a pleasant experience, usually starting with a strange taste in the mouth followed by a strong

and uncontrollable cough. What causes Tren cough is a much disputed topic

with claims of it being caused the amount of Benzyl Alcohol used in its

production by the underground labs, or by the oxidised partials that get into the blood stream of

the user upon administration of the Trenbolone.

[jst*lky]

My first cycle was Test Cyp for 12 wks...along with Tren Ace for 6 wks. I didnt get the "cough"...but my Libido went to shit!
You just have to way out the pros and cons...I looked Amazing when the Tren kicked in...but the Libido loss defeated the whole purpose of looking good. thank god for Cialis!

[Ironhorse]

Are you kidding me? Tren in a first cycle is as careless as it gets. Listen, you really need to take AAS seriously. Test alone would yield EXCELLENT result for a first cycle. Start with test alone and go from there in the future. There are some stickys in this section of the board that would do you alot of good to read. Start here.

[James99]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Are you kidding me? Tren in a first cycle is as careless as it gets. Listen, you really need to take AAS seriously. Test alone would yield EXCELLENT result for a first cycle. Start with test alone and go from there in the future. There are some stickys in this section of the board that would do you alot of good to read. Start here.

Yeah i think i have made up my mind and will be doing Test only so dont worry. I am a person that is very concerned about my health and i dont want to push my luck. I will read that sticky you posted. Thanks for the info

[James99]

well after doing some research about the irregular heart beats i got from the deca i am convinced it was something called heart palpitations. seems alot of guys have experinced it while on some kind of AAS. but i will remain unsure inless a doctor can tell me other wise. oh well i am excited to get my Test going here soon and i think i might beable to pick up some dbol. Going to take some before and after pics and make a log of some kind to keep track of my work outs and there improvments. Thanks again guys for your help.

[Ironhorse]

What are your goals for this cycle?
What are your stats? (age, height, weight, bodyfat %, etc,...)
Is your diet in place?
What are your plans for PCT?