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Just curious, with all the hype about AAS in baseball, what'd you people think's gonna happen with steroid laws? Do you think anything's gonna change or is this all going to blow over?
I'm hoping this will all just go away, but I do remember when I could just go down to my local vet. supply and pretty much get what ever I wanted. Those were the good old days. But, they'll never come back either. I can't imagine it getting any more difficult to obtain juice than it is now.
It's getting so, if you want anything you've praticley got to go across the border yourself to get it.
It's suckin more and more every day.
Unless there is a push for change then yes, it is likely that things will get worse. Us sitting here being "keyboard legislators" does little good for our cause, and if we do not want things to turn into what it looks like they are, we have to start finding ways to get our side out in the open. This board started out as a place for intelligent steroid discussion, then in all honesty evolved into a place to buy them, and I am hoping that the next phase will involve this board being a platform and a place for us to gather and jointly work for a change.
Just curious, with all the hype about AAS in baseball, what'd you people think's gonna happen with steroid laws? Do you think anything's gonna change or is this all going to blow over?
I'm hoping this will all just go away, but I do remember when I could just go down to my local vet. supply and pretty much get what ever I wanted. Those were the good old days. But, they'll never come back either. I can't imagine it getting any more difficult to obtain juice than it is now.
It's getting so, if you want anything you've praticley got to go across the border yourself to get it.
It's suckin more and more every day.
The steroid laws are severe right now! They are after all controlled substances. Enforcement of the laws is what will change.
I think AAS has increased over the past decade largely for two reasons: the internet and DSHEA.
The role of the Internet is obvious - it connects a small minority in disperse geographic locations... So that AAS users have their own community(s) on the Internet.
The influence of DSHEA is less obvious. But essentially anytime a legitimate market for a product opens up, it increases the availability of raws that can be used for illicit purposes. DSHEA made it legal to buy and sell androgens as dietary supplements. As a result everyone in China was producing/exporting androgens - there was demand, there was availability, and there were opportunists to capitalize on this.
The ASCA of 2004 will close the legitimate androgen market created by DSHEA. So the variety and availability of AAS is likely to decrease. I don't think demand will change. The war on drugs (AAS or anything else) doesn't work.
But due to lower availability and cost of doing business (greater enforcement), black market prices are likely to increase over the next few years.
One more thing that I want to touch upon... Of the two factors influencing the explosing of AAS availability over the past decade, I already mentioned that recent changes in DSHEA by the ASCA of 2004 will affect black market AAS availability and price.
Well, there are changes to the Internet that will affect prices as well. The government has pressured search engines (and yes, Google too) to crack down on AAS/drug importation from foreign internet pharmacies. Ultimately, Google et al will make it more difficult for the user to locate a place to buy AAS on the internet.
Google has already severely restricted the advertisements from foreign pharmacies in general and AAS providers in particular. No longer can you advertise on search keywords such as "steroids" or "anabolic steroids" or even "rx".
Google is even trying to prevent MESO-Rx from advertising its company name because they forbid the use of "rx" in ads unless you are one of half a dozen approved pharmacies. I can't even advertise "steroid books" without requesting an exception for this context. This is a change in Google policy from less than 6 months ago.
Google, although unlikely, can also change their algorithms to place less emphasis on certain type of websites (e.g. sites that sell steroids). Their algorithms are not public, so it will be difficult to determine if this ever happens.
Also, Overture won't accept any advertisements from sites that have any third-party links to internet pharmacies.
The admin's correct. The Gov't has already scheduled these products and what you are doing or thinking of doing as far as using UG products or legit products w/o a script isn't going to be anymore illegal than it already is. The legislation is in place and unless they make steroids (for medicinal purposes) completely and totally illegal there's not much more than they can do outside of sticter enforcement. That can only last so long though.
Their hard on is for Professional Athletes, and in some ways I don't completely disagree with their stand. I don't want my child being exposed to them. But I also don't want my child being exposed to the Gov'ts ridiculous accusations and misinformation as it pertains to this subject.--Penny
Another question is how will all these negative attention on AAS affect the permissibility/acceptability/willingness of doctors to legally prescribe AAS?
The passage of the original ASCA in 1990 set back legitimate research into AAS over a decade IMO.
Hopefully, this will not happen given the great strides we've made with AAS in HRT and wasting disorders.
so as a body building community wouldn't you think someone would be smart enough to say ok the gov or google wont allow us to advertise as aas lets just change aas to bss. keep things as underground as you can i'm sure thats how it will eventually work. threw good bros, changing tactics we will always prevail.its a neveer ending struggle to be one step ahead. unite brothers!
"Another question is how will all these negative attention on AAS affect the permissibility/acceptability/willingness of doctors to legally prescribe AAS?
The passage of the original ASCA in 1990 set back legitimate research into AAS over a decade IMO.
Hopefully, this will not happen given the great strides we've made with AAS in HRT and wasting disorders"
As you may know, I own an HRT site and since this has happened our flow has more than doubled. Here's what I'm saying, the Gov't has scheduled these drugs so they are illegal to posess w/o a script. We don't feel that the present nonsense going on in baseball negates in anyway our ability to provide a service that is still needed regardless of the b.s. going on. The Gov't will have to completely take them out of circulation and demonize them like they were crack before we'll stop providing this service.
That's not going to happen because of the necessity for these products in the medical world. Until that day we will continue to provide them.--Penny
The fact of the matter is that physicians prescribing sex hormones, or their derivatives, for muscle building purposes are, and always have been, illegal. I discussed this very topic with my friend attorney Rick Collins just last night.
Any physician who prescribes steroids for this reason stands to not only lose his/her Medical License, but may go to prison, too. The DEA and FDA are cracking down HARD on doctors who violate the law now. This is not "legal gear" as advertised. The prescriptions are not valid. Be forewarned: those of you who buy steroids from Internet so-called "HRT clinics" might as well be buying them from the Black Market, in the eyes of the Law. You will be busted, too, as the Fed seizes the Medical Records.
I just do not want you guys to be duped into thinking you are somehow safe from prosecution by enlisting the "medical care" of Internet physician-charlatans, irrespective of how those who hope to get rich by purposefully damaging your health try to mislead you. This is THE LAW, just as plain as the ink it is written with. If they are prescribing sex hormones, or their derivatives, at other than TRT dosages, they WILL be busted--and so will you!
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Licensed, but not legal. You are missing the point. ANY doctor who prescribes anabolics for the purpose of either muscle or performance enhancement is in gross violation of the law. Since the prescription is not valid, the "patient" is too. IOW, there is absolutely no such thing as "legal gear" in America.
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