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Old 07-04-2004, 04:51 PM
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Can I run Tren E without test. I know I'll get flamed by the test guys but it has more side effects on me then its worth.

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well you can technically do whatever you want...but if you want to talk about side effects what about trens side affects? and on top of that having tren dick. i would just run a low dose of test a week in my opinion if you are so against it.
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Old 07-04-2004, 07:45 PM
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I would always run test w any cycle unless you don't plan on using your d*ck for anything for a while bro. You can run either a long or short ester, but please run some test for your girlfriends/wifes sake. kavika
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:34 PM
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I think that Test should be run with any cycle. That being said, there are a few people out there that have run only Tren E and had great gains with no Tren dick. Would you be one of those people? Don't know. I don't want to find out if I am. Way too horny and proud to all of a sudden embarrass myself in front of a babe like that.

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I think that Test should be run with any cycle. That being said, there are a few people out there that have run only Tren E and had great gains with no Tren dick. Would you be one of those people? Don't know. I don't want to find out if I am. Way too horny and proud to all of a sudden embarrass myself in front of a babe like that.

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Agreed . . .test should be used on all cycles. Since all AAS lower natural test levels it only makes sense.
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:19 PM
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Well in my case it would be simple,,instead of tren and no test it would be tren and no dick.

Have you ran tren before?? Tren carries way more sides than test. Do yourself a favor and throw some test in there.
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:50 PM
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Cycling a lot of years. IMHO you've got to run some test because of the Tren sides. Alot of this depends on the individual. Some of the real young guys have trouble with Test.
But the young guys should'nt even need the gear!

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Old 07-05-2004, 05:01 PM
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A lot depends on your age and natural test levels.

Way, way back, when I was a pup and didn't know any better, I frequently used AAS with no Test. Never had a problem with limp dick syndrome, in fact, I was usually even hornier. Of course I got it on with my girlfriend 2-3 times a day, everyday, whether I was on cycle or not. Could hardly find time to go to my college classes. Because sex and the gym came first!

I'm guessing that my natural Test production was high enough that I was off cycle (back then, my cycles were only 6-8 weeks) before any serious suppression took place.

So if you're like that, and are between 19 and 25, you may be able to do an 8 week cycle with no problems. Otherwise, better kick in a little Test.

Also, the benefits of Test are substantial so anti-e's to control bloat and gyno eliminate the primary negative sides associated with Test. Acne can still be a problem but using pro-active and washing with palm olive does a great job for me.

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Max rep used to be a young pup?

J/K buddy

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J/K buddy
how are you doing today?
Doing great my friend, thank you!

I trust you and yours are doing well on this holiday weekend?

Also, I saw your posted question earlier... you're not going back to the dark side are you?

Best to you!
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