Tren and strength

[Novice_Safefreak]

I was just wondering how Test strength gains would compare to
Tren strength gains...

Since MW is probably the only guy who doesn't run the two together,
he might be best suited to answer this question, as he could compare
what he gained strength wise on test to what he did on Tren.

If anyone else has any input feel free...

Lets all learn and be merry, Yay!

N_Sf

[BRICK]

I would run the Tren and Test together

[Deacon]

tren will always produce greater strength gains - but for the ebst results pound for pound run them together

[stevemac]

MMmmmMMMM TnT

[MANWHORE]

Well i can compair with Sust cycle which was back in 92 .. I had to gain about 20lbs in order for strength to increase to an appreciable degree and on this Tren cycle,i gained nothing on the scale and strength went up very very well ... I lost fat and gained muscle because the mirror told me and boy did it. . Before Tren i was so used to gaining BULK (water,fat) and now after Tren,i just can't go back to that. there is nothing like gaining lean mass and being able to see the muscle you gain without having the water and fat cover it ... Of course i can still understand bulking and then cutting the fat and water but the lean mass is nice

[Novice_Safefreak]

Thanks guys,
I thought it was tren that gave the better strength...

P.S. Tell me MW, how old is Avril?

[FIREFLY]

shes 18 i think mmmmmmm 18 mmmmmmmmm

[Novice_Safefreak]

*shakes head*

[MANWHORE]

Yes 18 is nice even some 17yr olds are but i have to admitt that i don't think they really know what they want at that age .. It's more of a crush than being in love so just out of respect,i couldn't mess around with that. I messed around with a 20yr old about 4yrs ago and it was amazing. .. She was very cute,incredible body and knew how to f$%# but not someone i would date because all she wanted to do was smoke weed and not work ... She didn't smoke when we were together .. not because i didn't want her to,i guess she just wanted to be with me in reality.

[FIREFLY]

from 17 to about 27 girls are just toys ... have your fun and dont look into it being a long term thing.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by FIREFLY

from 17 to about 27 girls are just toys ... have your fun and dont look into it being a long term thing.

You'd be surprised at how many young girls know exactly what they want right from the start. I started dateing my wife about .. in 96 so i was 26 and she was 21 and she wanted only me. Yeah she went out just like i did but she was never into drinking much like i was. She would have rather been with me out to dinner and a movie. She has always been very pretty with a gorgeous body and always got hit on whenever she went out but she has always been faithful. After being with someone for 9yrs and knowing them for more than 20yrs,you really get to know them. I thought i knew other girls i dated for yrs just to find out i really didn't but my wife has never changed in all the years i've known her. She has always known she wanted to get married have a house and have children. BUT she really has to start giving up the PUSSY again DAMMIT! .. some girls want to party when their young and you just have to let them be. Never chase a girl,always let them chase you. They will respect you alot more. Of course you have to let them know that you like them from time to time but give them space. My wife hated that I was the one in charge when we started dateing. She was so used to guys calling her and chasing after her day in and day out. She was calling me every day asking my sister why i wasn't calling her and it wasn't because i didn't like her or was really trying to avoid her. I just got hurt before chasing girls when i was younger and decided to just let things happen as they did. I had the attitude that whatever happens was meant to happen. . That's probably a little more info than anyone here needed .. My wife is yelling at me to go watch my son so i have to go listen to the boss

[FIREFLY]

thats great that you found someone like that. from what ive seen most girls just want to fuck, nothing long term. thats whay there toys. you play a little until you get bored. lol. if i was going into a real thing i would look for a girl a little more closer to my age.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by FIREFLY

from what ive seen most girls just want to fuck, nothing long term

Man what bitches ... BTW do you know any that live in Jersey

[stevemac]

Originally Posted by FIREFLY

thats great that you found someone like that. from what ive seen most girls just want to fuck, nothing long term. thats whay there toys. you play a little until you get bored. lol. if i was going into a real thing i would look for a girl a little more closer to my age.

It really depends, and where you look. I'm 26 and my GF just turned 23 and she is completely honest about who she is, what she wants. When I am single I get cynical about women but my girl now is just what I'm looking for. I had a thing for her for 6 months before i had the balls to ask her out, turns out she liked me as well and I start to pick that up which is why i asked her out finally. But she hates headgames, honest, hot as hell, and thinks I'm the shit so i can't really ask for more.

[FIREFLY]

if any guys what to fuck and forget come to long island. thats the girle here. i hate to date any of em from here. there all about themselves. and i would put money on the ones that say there "loyal to there guy" that there cheating. the girls here look for money and who ever has the most or plays like they have the most wins all the girls. i guess thats why i dont care. i take what i can get and say fuck you to the ones i cant get. he he he.