tren..en or ace?

[IdolOfArnies]

First off, I've read good and bad about tren. Side effects are on the negative end of the spectrum, results on the good end. What are the very common side effects of tren? How much should one inject? Which is better, en or acetate? Thanks!

J.J.

[jb55638]

The ester paterns are the same with other gear, dude. Acetate ed, enath about twice a week depending on MG's. The tren-e will be active longer, so you will have to face the sides for longer then with the "a". --good luck
300-750 test E, 200-600 tren E (you need to run test with it ata a higher dose)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or else-tren dizick

[MANWHORE]

You don't NEED test with it. I used Tren E alone and never felt hornier in my life. I was getting erections and bigger than normal erections alot of times during the day ... I would go with the E because ED shots can be a pain in the ass and i think most don't get Tren cough from E. I'm not sure anyone at all gets it from E but i'm not possitive. .. I also never had any bad sides unless you want to call heavy night sweats and being hornier than a boy going through puberty bad sides .. i don't know your weight but i'm going to say 400mg/week/Tren E will do it for you. I went to 600mg/week but if your around 200lbs,i say 400 will be fine

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

You don't NEED test with it. I used Tren E alone and never felt hornier in my life. I was getting erections and bigger than normal erections alot of times during the day ... I would go with the E because ED shots can be a pain in the ass and i think most don't get Tren cough from E. I'm not sure anyone at all gets it from E but i'm not possitive. .. I also never had any bad sides unless you want to call heavy night sweats and being hornier than a boy going through puberty bad sides .. i don't know your weight but i'm going to say 400mg/week/Tren E will do it for you. I went to 600mg/week but if your around 200lbs,i say 400 will be fine

geez I hate to disagree - no I dont; but you should run test with tren e or tren a - it will help you get better gains and help you with both libido and recovery

but I hate to admit this - Manwhore is right - you can run tren alone but I wouldnt do it myself - of course I am 40 yrs old - if you are young and have plenty of natty test you could

[Neodavid]

Hey Deacon, a fellow Wisconsinite... whatya know.

I'm 45 and all I have left is tren. I might give it a try alone (ran it with test last time).

Dumb question for all, but since tren e isn't test, if you run it alone does it shut down test production? It creates progesterone breaking down, so...

Originally Posted by Deacon

geez I hate to disagree - no I dont; but you should run test with tren e or tren a - it will help you get better gains and help you with both libido and recovery

but I hate to admit this - Manwhore is right - you can run tren alone but I wouldnt do it myself - of course I am 40 yrs old - if you are young and have plenty of natty test you could

[MANWHORE]

Yes all AAS will shut you down expecially Tren. It's very androgenic which is why i say most or all don't need Test to help with libido. Test never did for my libido half of what Tren did at almost double the dose. Even if you do add Test you won't need double the dose to Tren. i still don't know where people get that from

[ENDRO]

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[Neodavid]

Okay, this is fun, I get what appears to be two opposite views...

How long was your Tren cycle? It INCREASED your libido???

That just flies in the face of what I've heard in the last year, so how about some details?

Where you doing anything else (not a steroid, some drug perhaps).

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

Yes all AAS will shut you down expecially Tren. It's very androgenic which is why i say most or all don't need Test to help with libido. Test never did for my libido half of what Tren did at almost double the dose. Even if you do add Test you won't need double the dose to Tren. i still don't know where people get that from

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Neodavid

Okay, this is fun, I get what appears to be two opposite views...

How long was your Tren cycle? It INCREASED your libido???

That just flies in the face of what I've heard in the last year, so how about some details?

Where you doing anything else (not a steroid, some drug perhaps).

I was ... no i don't use drugs .... i was using 250mg of test enanthate/week for about the 1st 3 weeks only because i have left over and didn't want to keep it otherwise i wouldn't have used any test at all. I then went on with the Tren E for about another 8 weeks after. If Tren is 3X more androgenic than Test,why would it lower libido? ... I've used Test E many times in the past up to 1000mg/week and it didn't even come close to 600mg/Tren/week as far as libido. I will tell you that Test did make me more aggressive i'm guessing that was from increased estrogen because i will get mad if someone looks at me the wrong way while on high doses of Test.Tren makes me feel like i'm on top of everything and i don't worry about people looking at me because i feel they pose no threat. .. I felt as if i could take on any guy in a fight but never really felt i would need to fight and take on every girl or many girls in the bedroom. The lack of estrogen and higher androgenic nature makes Tren a totally different AAS

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by ENDRO

"MAY" cause prolactin buildup or progesterone in "CERTAIN" individuals ... If the cycle is kept fairly short 6-7 weeks there should not be any problems

Well i didn't go over 7-8 weeks with it alone but i didn't see a reason to. ... I really want to try Tren A and go for about 4-6 weeks.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Neodavid

Hey Deacon, a fellow Wisconsinite... whatya know.

I'm 45 and all I have left is tren. I might give it a try alone (ran it with test last time).

Dumb question for all, but since tren e isn't test, if you run it alone does it shut down test production? It creates progesterone breaking down, so...

How much Tren do you have .. How many mg

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

How much Tren do you have .. How many mg

ya how much you got to run?

[ENDRO]

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[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by ENDRO

run Tren-E three times now at 400-500 mg a week with the same amount of test or slightly more and Tren does increase my aggression to the point I have to keep it in the back of my mind at all times and keep constant control.

You just can't say it's the Tren responsible for the increased aggression when your stacking Test with it at the same or higher dose and doesn't Progesterone need a higher than normal level of estrogen to cause any noticable negative effects? .. So how can anyone blame Tren for the negative side effects when stacking aromatizing AAS with it?......... Anadrol is known for being a very mild drug when used alone,as far as gyno goes but when stacked with aromatizing drugs it's known for being very harsh,when gyno is a concern. .. I've never used Tren E for more than 7-8 weeks alone so i can't say what would happen after that but i can say that within that 7-8 weeks Tren is by far the most potent AAS i have ever used ... in a good way

[ENDRO]

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