Tren Enanthate and Deca together?

[graybass]

This must be my day for asking questions!
All right tell me again why I can't run Deca and Tren E together? I tried to search this info but was unhappy with answers.
The main reason, from what my little brain understands, is that I'd run the risk of high Progesterone sides, which are very different from estrogen sides.
Everyone says Bromo for this, but it seems very hard to get a hold of.

My main problem is that I'm a little older now, and the Deca really lets me Lift much harder. On the other hand, with the Tren E. I gained more strength and hardness than ever in my whole life!
Everyone says this is bad , but I'm running 1000mg Test ( 4x sus 250 EW )and 600mg Deca. I'm used to fair amounts of gear, (20-30 cycles) so If I could add 500mg EW of Tren Enanthate for maybe 5 weeks, I think it would be greatest cycle of all time. But like I said, Everyone says this is a bad Idea! What about the Bromo ( I never get any kind of Gyno )

Help a brother out! Let me know what you guys think? (I'm expecting a couple of Flames)
Just that trying to make gains, and feel good Graybass

[graybass]

Ttt

[dzl66]

Originally Posted by graybass

This must be my day for asking questions!
All right tell me again why I can't run Deca and Tren E together? I tried to search this info but was unhappy with answers.
The main reason, from what my little brain understands, is that I'd run the risk of high Progesterone sides, which are very different from estrogen sides.
Everyone says Bromo for this, but it seems very hard to get a hold of.

My main problem is that I'm a little older now, and the Deca really lets me Lift much harder. On the other hand, with the Tren E. I gained more strength and hardness than ever in my whole life!
Everyone says this is bad , but I'm running 1000mg Test ( 4x sus 250 EW )and 600mg Deca. I'm used to fair amounts of gear, (20-30 cycles) so If I could add 500mg EW of Tren Enanthate for maybe 5 weeks, I think it would be greatest cycle of all time. But like I said, Everyone says this is a bad Idea! What about the Bromo ( I never get any kind of Gyno )

Help a brother out! Let me know what you guys think? (I'm expecting a couple of Flames)
Just that trying to make gains, and feel good Graybass

Two reasons that i have read are:
1) That combo. will shut you down hard! Don't need to research for this
2) This is controversial and if finafreak sees it he will get on me again but the combo is also a progesterone overload to your system from the research i have done >>but if you can handle 600mg of deca a week this may not be a problem for you.
I think a good option here
may be the fast acting version of Deca called Nandrolone Phenylpropionate this shorter ester gets the nandrolone in and out of your system fast for quicker gains and in theory can avoid the prolonged shutdown and progest. issues.
good luck

[hockey1]

Originally Posted by graybass

This must be my day for asking questions!
All right tell me again why I can't run Deca and Tren E together? I tried to search this info but was unhappy with answers.
The main reason, from what my little brain understands, is that I'd run the risk of high Progesterone sides, which are very different from estrogen sides.
Everyone says Bromo for this, but it seems very hard to get a hold of.

My main problem is that I'm a little older now, and the Deca really lets me Lift much harder. On the other hand, with the Tren E. I gained more strength and hardness than ever in my whole life!
Everyone says this is bad , but I'm running 1000mg Test ( 4x sus 250 EW )and 600mg Deca. I'm used to fair amounts of gear, (20-30 cycles) so If I could add 500mg EW of Tren Enanthate for maybe 5 weeks, I think it would be greatest cycle of all time. But like I said, Everyone says this is a bad Idea! What about the Bromo ( I never get any kind of Gyno )

Help a brother out! Let me know what you guys think? (I'm expecting a couple of Flames)
Just that trying to make gains, and feel good Graybass

I would do it aND have either nolva/arimidex reay in case you start to get sore nipples.

[Silverback]

You could drop the deca and use eq for the last 6-8 weeks---not sure how long your cycles are but you could extend it and have the sustan, eq, and tren e--

Other than that I dont know---

[Deacon]

In reality you can bro - many have in the past - with good anti e's on hand some bromo and a good pct you can get through it fine.

I am about ready to wrap up the tren in my cycle and will now add deca for another 15 weeks with the test cyp and EQ. Now while many say Eq and deca is a waste to run together I disagree. My experiment is to see if the EQ helps with deca bloat allowing for more solid gains.

At this point I am debating running tren and deca together in a future cycle at the same time myself.

I would worry less about sides and more about the dreaded crash they talk about.
But with good pct as I said I dont see it being a big factor

[graybass]

Thank You my Brothers, lots of good input. Yeah, my big worry is the recovery. I do have lots of great PCT on hand though, so I think I'm going to try to run them together for a least a month.

Next week I'll start a Tren E., and Deca thread. Keep you guys posted.
Like I said before, what I'm looking for is the way my joints all heal wonderfully on the Deca, but with the strength, size, and cuts the Tren Enanthate gives me. Of course all run with a Test Base.

graybass

[dzl66]

Originally Posted by graybass

Thank You my Brothers, lots of good input. Yeah, my big worry is the recovery. I do have lots of great PCT on hand though, so I think I'm going to try to run them together for a least a month.

Next week I'll start a Tren E., and Deca thread. Keep you guys posted.
Like I said before, what I'm looking for is the way my joints all heal wonderfully on the Deca, but with the strength, size, and cuts the Tren Enanthate gives me. Of course all run with a Test Base.

graybass

If I could handle deca and tren en. together I would see amazing gains The few times i have run deca ( I gave it up for eq) I made great gains but crashed real hard and the acne was from hell. It seemed like up to 5 years ago everyone ran deca but i think it is falling out of favor for EQ.
You can't beat deca for the joints and mass. but most of us pay the price.

[Deacon]

Since I am actually gonna be finished with the tren when I shoot the deca I may be sliding between the two somewhat although the tren will still be in my system for a while.

I know I have been advised strongly to run 500 ius of hcg twice a week while running this deca over tren cycle and if I straight up mixed deca and tren. This is from an older very experienced gear user who feels that for us older guys it is a good idea and I agree with him.
You may want to consider ot Graybass old buddy.

[dragula]

Originally Posted by graybass

This must be my day for asking questions!
All right tell me again why I can't run Deca and Tren E together? I tried to search this info but was unhappy with answers.
The main reason, from what my little brain understands, is that I'd run the risk of high Progesterone sides, which are very different from estrogen sides.
Everyone says Bromo for this, but it seems very hard to get a hold of.

My main problem is that I'm a little older now, and the Deca really lets me Lift much harder. On the other hand, with the Tren E. I gained more strength and hardness than ever in my whole life!
Everyone says this is bad , but I'm running 1000mg Test ( 4x sus 250 EW )and 600mg Deca. I'm used to fair amounts of gear, (20-30 cycles) so If I could add 500mg EW of Tren Enanthate for maybe 5 weeks, I think it would be greatest cycle of all time. But like I said, Everyone says this is a bad Idea! What about the Bromo ( I never get any kind of Gyno )

Help a brother out! Let me know what you guys think? (I'm expecting a couple of Flames)
Just that trying to make gains, and feel good Graybass

Actually bro the problems with tren come from PROLACTIN, not progesterone. Bromo helps with tren sides because it helps with excessive PROLACTIN levels. If you have used tren before without getting gyno you should probably be OK this time (even if using it with deca)

[Deacon]

I agree here with that fact - gyno IMO is something you either get or dont get - and I have never had problems with it either.

[ryan400]

Bump what deacon and th others said, I have used both in the same cycle with no problems. As far as post cycle recovery I use Nolva and a little HCG and have never had any problems with the boys bouncing back.

[graybass]

Excellent Info for all to see! The more opinions, and info we have, the happier and healthier we will all be.
We need all the facts we can get on the production and effects of prolactin, progesterone, and estrogen.

(of course I like alot of the info, because I agree with it!! LOL)
Excellent thread, graybass (Oh yeah, I forgot I started IT!)