Tren Gyno?

[No mercy]

I was thinking of running a 6wk Tren Ace, proviron cycle.

80mg Tren ed
50mg proviron ed
Nolva pct


This will be my fourth cycle. I am trying to avoid test due to the sever bloat (even while on .5 adex a day, and low sodium, low carb diet) that I experience. This will be a bulker, as well as my first experience with Tren. My main concern is Tren Gyno. I've read conflicting info regarding this. Some say Tren doesnt cause gyno, some say it raises Prolactin so it does cause gyno. Some say to take b6 to combat Prolactin gyno. Whats the deal?
I know this is a heavily debated issue, but I would like to hear from experience. Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys.

[Bigkarch]

six weeks wont do much bro...but that amount of tren should not be a big culprit for gyno...personally, I would drop the proviron and do test prop...that should not give you much bloat especially if you add some dex to the equation..say .25 mg ed or .5 mg eod....

keep some nolva on hand just in case of a gyno flare up, but personally, I dont think that will be a problem.....our research companies have easy access to research nolva for your biological studies..

[No mercy]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

six weeks wont do much bro...but that amount of tren should not be a big culprit for gyno...personally, I would drop the proviron and do test prop...that should not give you much bloat especially if you add some dex to the equation..say .25 mg ed or .5 mg eod....

keep some nolva on hand just in case of a gyno flare up, but personally, I dont think that will be a problem.....our research companies have easy access to research nolva for your biological studies..

Thanks for the reply man. I think im gonna take your advice and go with the prop instead of the proviron. Would it hurt to use something like dostinex just in case?

[Bigkarch]

it would not hurt...but dont use it until you need it

[No mercy]

So Dostinex is to Tren as Nolva is to Test, as far a gyno is concerned. I understand through completely different pathways, but is that pretty much the idea?

[Ary]

In my opinion estradiol is the main factor involved in the development of a gynecomastia. Controling estradiol levels is enough to avoid gyno.

[No mercy]

Originally Posted by Ary

In my opinion estradiol is the main factor involved in the development of a gynecomastia. Controling estradiol levels is enough to avoid gyno.

Estrogen is not the cause of Tren gyno. Elevated prolactin levels are. Two differant animals.

[Ary]

Okay, I know this. But only prolactin can not develop a gyno.

[Bigkarch]

Actually prolactin can cause some gyno....but there is a bit of debate on this....mainly prolactin is found in pregnant women ready to nurse and gained breast size....

[atomicone]

Originally Posted by Ary

Okay, I know this. But only prolactin can not develop a gyno.

Prolactin, which is how Tren raises progesterone levels, absolutely can cause bloat and gyno in the same fashion as Deca and Anadrol do. Also, I completely agree with BigKarch that you should add Test (ideally Test Prop) at around 400-600mg per week for 10 weeks.

Note: Proviron or Winstrol might help prevent progesterone related problems.

Good Luck!

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by atomicone

Prolactin, which is how Tren raises progesterone levels, absolutely can cause bloat and gyno in the same fashion as Deca and Anadrol do. Also, I completely agree with BigKarch that you should add Test (ideally Test Prop) at around 400-600mg per week for 10 weeks.

Note: Proviron or Winstrol might help prevent progesterone related problems.

Good Luck!

I agree with most of this but will add this - cabergoline/dostinex/cabaser will stop prolactin/ progesterone issues - it is the best inhibitor of these you can buy - if you do get gyno from prolactin issues Letro is more effective than Nolva IMO for prolactin based troubles