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03-01-2004, 07:20 AM
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 Tren HexaHydroBenzyl Carbonate.......
I have 200ml of Tren HexaHydroBenzyl Carbonate 100mg/ml.Was thinking of using it for 6 weeks in the middle of my current cycle.What injection frequency should i use ? Not much info on this ester! From what i gather,i should be used as a PhenylProp.Anyone have the halflife for this drug? Also,i get puffy /sore nips from Deca/Tren and was thinking of trying Dostinex ( Tried Bromo,makes me feel like shit! ) What dosage should i be using ? Was thinking of the Tren HHBC 100mg Mon / Wed / Fri along with 1mg Dostinex 2 - 3 times per week.Does that sound good to you guys.Currently on 800mg Cyp and 600mg Primo per week.Just finished 4 weeks of Dbol and am starting 6 weeks of Var @ 50mg/day.
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03-01-2004, 08:55 AM
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parabolan should be shot E3D, for prostaglandin related gyno, try B6
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03-01-2004, 01:26 PM
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In another thread he says 200mg a day, so I am trying to figure this one out....James |
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03-01-2004, 01:29 PM
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BTW, I have read, you can also use Vitex at 1gram a day, instead of Bromo to protect against gyno... |
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03-27-2004, 12:45 PM
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here is some info on Para for ya bro - may answer some questions. Parabolan is trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate. The half-life of a steroid ester is mostly dependent on its ratio of fat solubility to water solubility: the longer chain the ester, the higher this ratio, and the longer the half-life. This particular carbonate could be most closely compared with an enanthate ester; the half-life is probably a little less than week. An amp (76 mg trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate) is comparable only to 58 mg of trenbolone acetate. (The acetate is a little more potent, more effective per milligram, because the acetate ester is lighter and therefore a higher percentage of the weight is trenbolone.) The properties of Parabolan are the same as trenbolone acetate (Finaject) except for longer half life. While Finaject itself is no longer available, in some cases injectable preparations from Finaplix have been made. The substance is the same: trenbolone acetate. There is no evidence in the literature, nor I think practical evidence, that trenbolone acetate has a "special role" in burning fat. Rather, it is an extraordinarily potent AAS, being about three times as effective per milligram as testosterone esters. For this reason, any property which anabolic steroids have, trenbolone acetate will demonstrate more strongly per milligram. I have found no indication in the scientific literature of particular kidney toxicity with trenbolone. I know of a number of users, at doses of typically 50 mg/day, who have experienced no problems. There are however anecdotal claims of kidney problems. It seems to me, however, that this is occurring only with athletes stacking an incredible amount of drugs, and how the blame can fairly be laid at trenbolone (actually at Parabolan, not trenbolone acetate) is not clear. It is also not clear that trenbolone results in any greater degree of increased aggression for a given amount of anabolic effect than testosterone itself does. However, on a per milligram basis, it undoubtedly does. The substance does not cause uncontrollable "roid rage" despite the hype to that effect often seen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trenbolone is a steroid having the advantages of undergoing no adverse metabolism, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase; of being very potent Class I steroid binding well to the androgen receptor; and having a short half life, probably no more than a day or two. Fifty milligrams per day is a good dosing for someone on his first cycle or someone who is as yet less than, say, 20 pounds over his natural limit; while 100 mg/day may be preferred by the more advanced user who has already gained more than this. These doses are assuming that trenbolone is the only Class I steroid being use. There really is no need to stack another -- testosterone being the only sensible exception -- but if another is stacked then the amount of trenbolone may be reduced accordingly. Since Finaject is the acetate form of trenbolone, its effect lasts only a short time and frequent administration is necessary. Most athletes inject I ml (30 mg) every second day. Higher dosages such as, for example, 30 mg/day or 60 mg every two days, however, were not unusual since an enormous strength gain and also a strong but still high-quality muscle gain was obtained. Finaject does not aromatize since its substance is not changed into estrogens. In combination with Winstrol it has a dramatic effect on the body's appearance. To achieve a gigantic strength gain bodybuilders used to combine 30 mg Finaject every 1-2 days and 50 mg Winstrol Depot every 1-2 days (also known as Strombaject) during preparation for a competition and the buildup phase. No other combination gives the athlete such an incredible hardness and such a defined muscle gain. The possible physical change obtainable in only a few weeks is enormous enough to shock some non-involved observers. Believe us, competing bodybuilders love this combination especially. Finaject was also part of probably the most effective stack for mass buildup. Together with Dianabol or Anadrol 50, and testosterone, "Fina" builds up strength and mass in record time. Another way of administration which is far less dangerous, can be prepared as follows: the ground pellets are mixed with a mixture of 50% water and 50% DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide). Then the mixture is put on the skin and allowed to soak in. Dimethyl sulfoxide is used to transport the substance trenbolone through the skin. Using this method approximately 40 mg of the substance can get into the blood without much harm. |
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03-27-2004, 12:52 PM
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03-27-2004, 01:27 PM
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No prolactin will not necesarily disappear with the discontinuation of tren. I had prolactin issues over a year ago and went to DR to get blood work done last week and it (prolactin) is still elevated. Dostinex is a sure bet for combatting PROlACTIN problems.and it was recomended by the doc, I know the feeling your having in your nips and it'snot true gyno, it's a build up of prolactin,.So don't start adding VITEX ,it will probably make it worst,. FINA Last edited by finafreak; 03-27-2004 at 01:56 PM. |
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03-27-2004, 01:46 PM
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B6 is pretty good for prog/prolactin-related gyno. 200mg/day during a cycle, 200mg 3x/day if symptoms appear. Even prolactin-related gyno rarely presents itself in the absence of a higher than normal estrogen:androgen ratio. Something like nolva can actually be effective at treating prolactin-related gyno issues for this reason. Proper use of anti e's can solve most all of the world's problems, many even before they start. |
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03-27-2004, 01:51 PM
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You have proof? fina |
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03-27-2004, 02:09 PM
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03-27-2004, 02:29 PM
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You'll find anecdotal "evidence" in studies showing that it may or may not help, but real-world experience shows it works....and does so pretty well. Lots of people will use B6 at 200mg 3x/day upon prolactin-related gyno symptoms and see the symptoms subside pretty quickly. Keeping estrogen levels in check is another efficient prevention strategy though. Neurochem Res. 1994 Jun;19(6):687-92. Related Articles, Links Effects of serotonergic agents on plasma prolactin levels in pyridoxine-deficient adult male rats. Sharma SK, Dakshinamurti K. Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Faculty of Medicine, University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Canada. Plasma concentration of prolactin was significantly reduced in pyridoxine-deficient as compared to control (pyridoxine-supplemented) adult male rats. Administration of pyridoxine to deficient rats resulted in a significant increase in plasma prolactin. The reduction in plasma prolactin in pyridoxine-deficient rats corresponded with the significantly reduced hypothalamic contents of pyridoxal phosphate and serotonin in pyridoxine-deficient rats. Plasma prolactin concentrations were also measured in response to serotonergic agents in both groups of rats. The administration of the 5HT1A agonist (8-hydroxy 2-n-dipropylamino tetralin) resulted in a significant increase in plasma prolactin and that of the specific 5HT1A antagonist spiroxatrine had the opposite effect. The results suggest that the hypothalamic serotonergic regulation of prolactin release is impaired in pyridoxine deficiency. |
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03-27-2004, 02:43 PM
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Ok,first of all let me thank you for your research bro,. Just hard to believe vitamin b-6 would combat agaisnt prolactin problems,.i read ur report,but it still don't answer my question,.i would like to give it a try,but also would like to be assured that its a true fact not a myth. fina |
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