Tren killing my kidneys

[spillburt]

Man, after 3 weeks on tren my back started killing me. I started drinking a hell of a lot more water and made some internet-recipe of watermelon seed tea which did help but I couldn't take that shit everyday. Unless I could find some pre-made stuff cause fishing out watermelon seeds isn't very productive and it tastes like caca.

I have read the BA/Tren combo is what is hard on the kidneys. All I know is that it made mine feel like shizat. So needless to say I stopped the tren and am going to hold off on my cycle for a few weeks now. I did love the effects of the tren but I might go with an enanthate next time. If anyone has done the enan and it was easier on them I would like to know.

[Geebee52]

Spillburt, I'm surprised. I used prop and tren acetate from Trenfactor twice and didn't have any problem. I have to be carefull because I've only got one kid working. I had been advised by two persons that tren properlly estherized wasn't hard on the kids.

[cruiser_67]

This is an interesting Topic for me. I only have one Kidney and would love to use some tren in an upcoming cycle. I however have been reluctant do to the possibility of the harshness.

MC

[georgie24]

kidney protocal

2 gallons of h20
heavy milk thisle usage/dandalion root
black coffee like a mofo
cranberry juice like a mofo

[Peace Division]

Originally Posted by georgie24

kidney protocal

2 gallons of h20
heavy milk thisle usage/dandalion root
black coffee like a mofo
cranberry juice like a mofo

Hey bro, just curious why black coffee, is it for the diuretic effect to flush out the kidneys? Please, educate a brother !

[Rex Feral]

To think that tren is nephrotoxic to the point of causing back pain after 3 weeks of use is ridiculous. The thought that some watermelon seed extract would cause a noticeably appreciable difference if this were to occur is even more asinine. What proof do we have that tren is nephrotoxic? I'd be willing to bet the back pain was not caused by referred renal pain. There is always the outside chance that someone is hypersensitive to a paticular med, but the chances are very slim @ best that what this person identified as pain caused by tren nephrotoxicity was actually due to that.

Rex.

[MANWHORE]

I get lower back pain sometimes,too..... Usually a few days after deadlifts.

[Buff Diddy]

nice avatar spillburt. me and my buddies were just talking about what a cool movie weird science was...anyways, it seems that the evidence that tren is toxic to the kidneys is inconclusive. not to mention that many people are making their own out of cattle implants which may have other ingredients in them that are causing the problems. i have friends who do irresponsible amounts of tren and have had no problems with it. i am thinking about trying it with my next cycle but am a little hesitant. plus i don't know if i want to take it eod, once a week is enough for me. better start chugging that water, at least 1 gal ed and get a good liver detox formula with nac, milk thistle, dandelion etc.

[spillburt]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

Tren never hurt my kindeys either. Are you sure it was the tren. Did the pain go away after you stopped the tren? If it was the tren, you probably needed to up your water to 2 gallons per day.

Well I did stop the tren and about 3 days later the pain was gone. I do know it was my kidneys because I had a kidney infection once and it felt exactly the same.

[spillburt]

Originally Posted by Rex Feral

To think that tren is nephrotoxic to the point of causing back pain after 3 weeks of use is ridiculous. The thought that some watermelon seed extract would cause a noticeably appreciable difference if this were to occur is even more asinine. What proof do we have that tren is nephrotoxic? I'd be willing to bet the back pain was not caused by referred renal pain. There is always the outside chance that someone is hypersensitive to a paticular med, but the chances are very slim @ best that what this person identified as pain caused by tren nephrotoxicity was actually due to that.

Rex.

Dude, I never started the post as "Scientific evidence proves Tren causes kidney problems in 3 weeks" I did however make a simple observation. Item A - started using Tren, Item B - started getting back pains very similar to when I had a kidney infection many years ago. Started on one side, then a couple days later both sides hurt. My not-so-scientific explanation without the use of a double-blind placebo test is "The Tren caused the problem". Therefore I decided to test my hypothesis and after 3 days of discontinuation the pain subsided. Hmmm, rediculous deduction? Not! Unscientific? Yes!

Now onto the watermelon seed tea... It sounded lame to me but I tried it anyway and the pain went away till the next evening. Was it magic? Was it the placebo effect? Who knows but it worked.

So yes you may be right, yes I may be right, all I know is what I described before. I took tren got backaches, stopped the tren got rid of backaches.

So however "asinine" it sounds, it is what happened. Chill bro!!! Your Tren agression is getting to you.

The whole point of the post is to see if anyone else has had the same problems and if the enanthate was different in that regard. Simple as that

I will however try a more cleaner version from a UG source and see if I have the same problems next time. The tren I was using was a home made pellet brew. So it could also be the other shit they put in those cow implants.

[spillburt]

Originally Posted by Buff Diddy

nice avatar spillburt. me and my buddies were just talking about what a cool movie weird science was...anyways, it seems that the evidence that tren is toxic to the kidneys is inconclusive. not to mention that many people are making their own out of cattle implants which may have other ingredients in them that are causing the problems. i have friends who do irresponsible amounts of tren and have had no problems with it. i am thinking about trying it with my next cycle but am a little hesitant. plus i don't know if i want to take it eod, once a week is enough for me. better start chugging that water, at least 1 gal ed and get a good liver detox formula with nac, milk thistle, dandelion etc.

Heh thanks, I am also a fan of that classic 80's film. I still can't watch a movie with Bill Paxton in it and not think of Chet.

Yes I used the cattle implant version from a Fina Kit. So that might be the whole problem there. Like I said in a previous post I wouldn't mind trying some from a UG lab and see if there is a difference.

I was and am taking Milk Thistle I might try some other things as well. It might be a good idea for me to get some blood work done before and during my next cycle to see if I am maybe prone to some kidney probs which would suck.

[Buff Diddy]

Originally Posted by spillburt

Heh thanks, I am also a fan of that classic 80's film. I still can't watch a movie with Bill Paxton in it and not think of Chet.

Yes I used the cattle implant version from a Fina Kit. So that might be the whole problem there. Like I said in a previous post I wouldn't mind trying some from a UG lab and see if there is a difference.

I was and am taking Milk Thistle I might try some other things as well. It might be a good idea for me to get some blood work done before and during my next cycle to see if I am maybe prone to some kidney probs which would suck.

i'm still in the process of figuring out the best way to make it. i've read as many different directions as i can find on it but find all of them a little vague about certain steps. i kind of had to piece my own process together. i made two batches and they came out very different colors. i filtered them both out twice first through a .45 whatman then through a .2 and one is tea brown and clear and the other yellow but slightly cloudy. i made every effort to keep everything sterile and sterilize the finished product. i'm going to keep experiementing and eventually write my own directions...fina for dummies.

[Rex Feral]

Originally Posted by spillburt

Dude, I never started the post as "Scientific evidence proves Tren causes kidney problems in 3 weeks" I did however make a simple observation. Item A - started using Tren, Item B - started getting back pains very similar to when I had a kidney infection many years ago. Started on one side, then a couple days later both sides hurt. My not-so-scientific explanation without the use of a double-blind placebo test is "The Tren caused the problem". Therefore I decided to test my hypothesis and after 3 days of discontinuation the pain subsided. Hmmm, rediculous deduction? Not! Unscientific? Yes!

Now onto the watermelon seed tea... It sounded lame to me but I tried it anyway and the pain went away till the next evening. Was it magic? Was it the placebo effect? Who knows but it worked.

So yes you may be right, yes I may be right, all I know is what I described before. I took tren got backaches, stopped the tren got rid of backaches.

So however "asinine" it sounds, it is what happened. Chill bro!!! Your Tren agression is getting to you.

The whole point of the post is to see if anyone else has had the same problems and if the enanthate was different in that regard. Simple as that

I will however try a more cleaner version from a UG source and see if I have the same problems next time. The tren I was using was a home made pellet brew. So it could also be the other shit they put in those cow implants.

You're a fucking idiot, you just don't have sense enough to realize it. Better you than me.

[MANWHORE]

You don't like this guy Rex?

[mr.big]

Originally Posted by spillburt

Man, after 3 weeks on tren my back started killing me. I started drinking a hell of a lot more water and made some internet-recipe of watermelon seed tea which did help but I couldn't take that shit everyday. Unless I could find some pre-made stuff cause fishing out watermelon seeds isn't very productive and it tastes like caca.

I have read the BA/Tren combo is what is hard on the kidneys. All I know is that it made mine feel like shizat. So needless to say I stopped the tren and am going to hold off on my cycle for a few weeks now. I did love the effects of the tren but I might go with an enanthate next time. If anyone has done the enan and it was easier on them I would like to know.

Hey bro. I used the vet grade Tren Acetate several years ago and yes I
did get mild kidney pain, it was usually one or the other but it would go
away. I just drank lots of H2O. I've done several cycles with Tren Ace in
the mix and every time I got minor kidney pains that were more sporadic than
anything.

Oh, I used the first Ttokkyo Tren Ace that came on the market, was good stuff
too.

Goodluck