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Would like a few suggestions.
I've been on a long cycle.
Wk 1-12 750 test E & 600 eq was doing winny in there but don't care for it.

Starting wk 13 450 prop & 400 eq. my plan was to run 17 - 18 wks. total
first 10 wks was getting bigger and leaning up a bit. then start into a cutting phase. I was debating on running tren or masteron the last 3-4 wks. I know about the two but have never used either. would like some thoughts. I'm at about 10% BF now but not as vascular as I'd normally be at this point.
I've been doing t-3 and clen for 6 wks and have been running nolva for the last month or so..............11

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Would like a few suggestions.
I've been on a long cycle.
Wk 1-12 750 test E & 600 eq was doing winny in there but don't care for it.

Starting wk 13 450 prop & 400 eq. my plan was to run 17 - 18 wks. total
first 10 wks was getting bigger and leaning up a bit. then start into a cutting phase. I was debating on running tren or masteron the last 3-4 wks. I know about the two but have never used either. would like some thoughts. I'm at about 10% BF now but not as vascular as I'd normally be at this point.
I've been doing t-3 and clen for 6 wks and have been running nolva for the last month or so..............11

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me personaly would be in favor of tren...never used masteron,thought that it wasnt produced any longer.tren will help you put on that lean muscle that your after,and gives you insane pumps.

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me personaly would be in favor of tren...never used masteron,thought that it wasnt produced any longer.tren will help you put on that lean muscle that your after,and gives you insane pumps.

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At this point I'm looking for ripped and vascular. In the sticky's tren was in all the cutters........11
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If you want to drop your estrogens as much as possible then drostanolone (masteron) would be the best choice. The masteron will act as an anti-estrogen with the testosterone present... and would help you bring down your estrogens therefore reducing bloat.

The "anti-estrogenic" effects of drostanolone can best be compared to proviron.

If your not running any anacils then the tren may iritate your nips and cause gyno and some unwanted bloat from the progestin effects.

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At this point I'm looking for ripped and vascular. In the sticky's tren was in all the cutters........11
well as you know your diet will be 90% of "ripped and vacularity"...tren will give you lean gain without the water and estrogen sides.at high does it can give prog. sides,but i have never had a problem with it.tren is the shit...by far my favorite drug.also it a far greater chance of getting bunk masteron imo.hope that helps.

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IMO I would chose tren - Masteron can be hell for anyone other than very advanced users - most of the trouble is that it can suck you dry so fast that you wont even know it and cant do much to stop it - it is hell on blood pressure, elevated heart rate, and even the kidneys - I would much rather use tren - especially for what you want to achieve
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so far so good . keep um coming.............11
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"sucks you dry" What does that mean? Something sexual?

"hell on blood presure, heart rate, and kidneys" Are you thinking of oxymethalone my friend? OR perhaps you have some medical research for these claims?

When comparing ALL side effects, Masteron would be a safer and more effective alternative to Trenbolone... and like I said before trenbolone could potentialy agravate a gyno condition if you have to much estrogen floating around.

But like the others have already said, "Masteron is hard to find". Good luck there. -ES
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Personally I see no need for Masteron unless you are 8%BF or below and competing so I would stick with the Tren as you are 10% BF the tren will assist (slightly) in helping reduce that number more so then Masteron (also think of your hairline on Masteron)
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Personally I see no need for Masteron unless you are 8%BF or below and competing so I would stick with the Tren as you are 10% BF the tren will assist (slightly) in helping reduce that number more so then Masteron (also think of your hairline on Masteron)
That was one of my conserns with masteron. I've been able to hold on to most of my hair and have been on propicia for a few years now. I plan on getting that low BF but have no desire to compete. My local guy has some masteron, I've known him for yrs. and he's on the verge of turning pro so I know it's real. I've been wanting to try tren for a while and thats where I'm leaning..........11
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