I would have to say it does! It works best as a fat burner when taken by itself. The reason so few people can comment on it from a fat burnering stand point is because almost no one will ever see the effect. If you take any where between 75mg-150mg a day by itself and train like you normally would you will lose fat with out doing any cardio at all. In fact the first two weeks you are doing it by itself you will be checking out the mirror trying to decide if it is doing anything at all you will notice a slight increase in definition but you will not be sure if it is real or just in your head. Then come week 4 you start to notice that your muscle are looking harder then you have ever seen them look before. Then come week six you loving the increased definition you are looking great lean, hard as a rock and very vascular. Then from week 6 on you really start to gain muscle mass fast and you keep getting leaner and leaner........You strength buy now is sky high the first time I did a
tren only cycle by week 10 I was doing 10X10 with my previous 1RM on bench press. Past week 8 you start to get sore joints from the lack of estrogen in your body and your apatite will be way down you will have to make yourself drink some protein shakes or eat etc......You will not feel bad just will have no apatite. By week 10 your joints will hurt regularly but you will want to see just how long you can keep this going because you have never lost fat like this before and you will be looking harder then you have ever looked in your life! I think 12 weeks is about as long as you can stay on a
tren only cycle because your joints start hurting too much and the night sweats become so annoying your wife or girl friend will want a separate blanket. You will only gain about 1/2 to 2/3 what you would gain if you stacked
tren with
test but if you stack it with
test you almost completely lose all the fat burning properties of it!
Too many people are scared to run it alone and this is why almost none of them have experienced the massive fat burning properties of it!!! If you run it with anything that can convert to estrogen you lose the fat burning effect.
I have come up with one way that I think will get rid of the nasty sides of joint pain when run alone. I think that it will work too. The problem with stacking it with
test is that people always want to do 500-1000mg a week of
test and then 300-500mg a week of
tren not only is that ass backwards but it is why they do not see the fat burning effects. So why do our joints start hurting like mad as the
tren only cycle goes on??? I am preety sure it is the complete lack of estrogen since
tren shuts down
test production and that is the same place we get our estrogen from by converting
test to estrogen. So all we need to do is to put a litle bit of
test into the systme like 3-7mg a day. 7-8mg a days is about the most
test a man body will routinely produce daily when not takeing steroids. So if we put this same amount of
test backinto the body then we should be able to run
tren almost by itself with out the joint pain and we should also be able to gain even more muscle mass. I think daily works best with
tren I have tried EOD and ED and ED seems to work best. Bear in mind I am talking about being able to run
tren and use as little
test as possable to keep the fat burning furnace going!
So if you made a 50CC bottle of
Tren at 75mg/ml and you added 1 cc of
Test Cypionate at 200mg/ml you would get roughly 75mg of
tren and 4mg of
test each 1 cc you used. If you wanted to get 8mg of
test then you would put 2cc's into the bottle. Mind you the math above is a little off but it is not going to matter that much you see my point. In theory anything that converts to
Test or Estrogen could be used in the
Tren you could add DHEA if you wanted to and still get the estrogen you needed to keep your joints happy. I am trying something like this right now but it is so experimental and I am only two weeks into it.
I would almost wager that no one on this sight besides me has ever done
Tren with out
Test in the mix and I doubt anyone has done
Tren and Deca together with out
test. So this is why I say few people have any idea what
Tren by itself can do or will do because they have never tried it by itself for any length of time.
Each steroid has a completely different effect on gene transcription and they have effects that reach far deeper into the body then most will ever realize. Even your caloric intake effects how anabolic affect gene transcription. For instance anabolic steroids have a 10 fold increase in gene transcription when in a starvation mode. That means that the chemical and physical effects of the steroid are 10 fold greater under conditions of starvation. All of the dormant genes come alive and they get affected just like the genes that are normally active in us. Most people do not know this because they think of genes like a finger print like they are static but your physical conditioning changes the genes that are turned on or turned off. The physical fitness of the father actually changes the genes that he passes on to his off spring!
We are all so worried about building muscle mass that we seldom think much beyond that. Normally when you starve your body goes into a catabolic state and it down regulates almost everything. This is not the case though if you starve yourself and take anabolic.Few of us would ever consider taking anabolic and then starving ourself but the research has been already. I watched a show on it well it was actually on Gene transcription and famine v.s feast setting and the effect on offspring. They covered all kinds of things from what affects famine had on young men and young women and what disease the offspring became more inclined to based on the food intake of their parents between the ages of 7 and 13 I think it was. They also covered hormones in thier as well it was a fascinating show.
What we do today has a profound impact on what we pass on to others down the road and it also has a profound impact on what diseases we might make ourself more prone to down the road! All of us are truly playing with some anabolic compounds that have lasting effects not always seen for quite some time down the road and it can be good or bad depending on what get's switched on and what get's switched off. I think that this is why we see such inconsistent disease rates in longterm steroid user's. First dose,duration,number of cycles,caloric intake, macro and micro food nutrients and individual response to the drugs all play a role. This is why some people end up with heart diseases down the road and sometimes not that far down the road either where other people have the reverse happen they become free of heart disease!
We are all just seeing the surface of a big ice berg and we forget just how much we are nto seeing. This is not meant as a fear tactic either because no one can really say with out constant testing if you are doing yourself any harm or if you are doing yourself a world of good. Too much is not known about how the gene transcription works either when talking about anabolic. Plus their has never been that much deep in depth research into the various effects of each anabolic some are not even available for human use in legitimate pharmaceutical grade products meant for humans! SO just keep that in mind that all of use are walking down a path that has an uncertain future. For me the short term pay offs are good and if I am able to correct my metabolism then the long term pay off will be good as well. I know for a fact that my longterm outlook with out
TRT with estrogen dominance would not be a good one!
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You wanna be the best? You have to train better then the best!
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