Tren and Winny or just winny

[thahk]

Hey guys,
I'm trying to educate myself as much as I can about this before I make any decisions. I know some of you out there really frown upon winny only cycles so I just want to know some of the members opinions on trebolan and winstrol together. For example 75mg of tren one day......50 mg winstrol the next. If you could compare this to just doing 50 mg of winstrol a day, which would be the best choice in helping me hold onto a bit of muscle while I diet down? Besides test would there be something better to stack winny with besides the tren. Any comments greatly appreciated guys!

[muslhed1971]

Winny makes my joints hurt so I would nix that. If you can get your hands on some propionate you are going to be much better off. If not then at least some enanthate at 500mg per week split into 2 doses (250mg on monday and 250mg on thurs.) You're going to need some test either way in a cycle with tren as tren will shut you down pretty hard without it.
None of this will work if your diet isn't in check. Good luck.

[Deacon]

test and tren bro - winnie is not needed with tren as tren does the same thing and is much more powerful - it would cancel the winnie right out

[gerard1]

tren enanth @ 350 per week (with 400 test enanth)...........is this why I can't sleep and am sweating like a fucking pig??!