Ufc

[chochee]

I was just on the UFC website and read that Sean Sherk tested positive for Nandrolone Metabolite and Hermes Franca tested positive for Drostanolone. I watched that UFC on Sherk's training and shit what an animal. Obviously steroids didn't hurt his cardio.

[Selene]

they use to enhance their abilities

[deathgrip07]

UFC fighters are some of the best conditioned people I've ever seen, and I imagine the pressure, and want to succeed is high. It's not surprising to me that some would choose AAS as a way to enhance their strength and recovery. I'm not shocked by the positive testing at all, because these recent finds aren't the first, and most certainly won't be the last.

[jmills]

OK, I've been around this game for a long time and I can say for sure that AAS have been part of the mix since the beginning. I remember a friend of mine (that went on to some success) telling me that he had a choice..."either juice and get healed up or go home and go back to work in the factory". And this was early 90's. That was always the emphasis: to get healed up quick so you could fight again in 30-45 days (or sooner) vs 3-4 months. And when you are travelling around to different small venues, and fighting for $250-$500 a pop (and most guys were also working a "real job" either part time or at a dojo/dojang or whatever) then you could not afford to take a long time off. I remember travelling around and sleeping on peoples couches that were "friends of friends" or fellow martial artists....in most cases people I had never met before... just to save a few bucks on a hotel room.
My, how things have changed. I never used back in those days...but I know of several who did, and I'm sure alot more were....and i never judged them...again, it was always just a way to get healed up. Alot of guy's thought of AAS as a necessary evil and believed thier performance actually suffered, but that they had no other choice.

Okay, didn't mean to go on-and-on about the old days. Sorry 'bout that. Point is, guy's were using back when it was just a way to barely make a living doing something you love...now that there is "fame and fortune" to be had, on top of doing something you love....why is anyone surprised that these guy's are doing whatever thay have to to keep up with the next guy?

[HDH]

Fighters don't use the same doses as bodybuilders.

HDH

[zumper]

Originally Posted by HDH

Fighters don't use the same doses as bodybuilders.

HDH

Can you tell what dosages are using and what roids they choose?

[novicebb]

This is a quote from ASAP blog I go off his myspace page and I agree with what he has to say fully.
I know that I will be blasted for some of the comments although they are not mine but I feel strongly what I am posting now:

When it comes to AAS and sports performance enhancing compounds, I don't like the term "necessary evil". I feel that it puts a negative connotation to it.

Also I sometimes don't like the term "Performance enhancing" when the media is talking about anabolic/androgenic steroids when a lot of athletes use them to recover from injuries, not to get an performance edge. Second why is it bad to seek a performance edge.

We are always championing and applauding those that work harder, train longer then the next guy. We applaud the QB who spends an hour longer in the film room then the opposing QB does watching film.

We applaud the running back that steps out on the field with injuries suffered throughout the season for giving his team a better chance but don't blink an eye when we find out that he is only able to step on that field with the aid of a very well known sports enhancing steroid....."Cortisone"!

Athletes incorporate training to improve performance. They hire conditioning coaches specializing in squeezing out every last bit of performance imaginable.
You even have corporations and clinics being created for the whole purpose of improving and increasing performance.

It is in human nature to be better then your predecessor, to be better then your opponent. Parents seek out new research and written literature to improve their newborn chances of a better life. We hear of research that if you read to your children while still in the wound will improve IQ and development. We hear that children that learn more then one language at the same time have higher IQ scores and do better in adult years then those that learn only one language.
We even have parents that screen their eggs and sperm to lessen the chances of passing on gene mutations and defects all in the chance to give their child a better chance over the next child.

I am amazed when I hear people criticize and demonize those athletes that persue excellence yet we as fans and as humans do not accept mediocrity. As employees we are always seeking to improve our chances of getting a pay increase, better perks, more benefits and providing more for our families. This is accomplished not only by improving yourself personally but also giving yourself a advantage over your fellow employee and competitors.

Some of the fastest growing drugs and supplements are what is called "Nootropics". Even the millitary is testing drugs like Adrafinil, Modafinil and others on soldiers performance in the field to give there millitary an advantage.

I can go on and on but I think you guys get the point.

[jmills]

Novice, I get what you are saying. In a way, though, I think you are kind of "preaching to the choir", know what i mean? (I don't mean to say that you are preaching, it's just an expression). I mean, if you are reading this then you probably agree with most of what was said, right?

Now i could take either side on this issue, I feel like there is a fine line between being competitive and fostering a competitive atmosphere in the spirit of rewarding the most gifted, dedicated etc etc.....and crossing over into a place where people are destroying themselves for our entertainment...but like anything in human nature it's not a simple situation. Books have been written and doctorates awarded by people much more intelligent than I am on this very subject, books written from BOTH sides of the argument. I do appreciate your point of view Novice, and I know that it is a point of view that is sadly under-represented to the majority of people in this nation.

Personally, I don't think ANY drugs should be illegal.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by zumper

Can you tell what dosages are using and what roids they choose?

Not sure about the exact doses but they can probably tell you if they are high or low. Yes, they can tell what they're on.

HDH

[BRICK]

why use a AAS like Deca since it is detectable up to 18 months. Not too smart. So much on the line and not very smart decision. Why not go to all orals as the fight gets closer so that you can test clean? Seems like common sense. But like I said, with so much at stake...Defending his UFC lightweight title and no thought went into beating the drug test. Just seems so foolish.