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Ok everyone i've heard a whole lot about nosebleeds on a cycle and many don't think its true or get flammed for it. This is somewhat serious because lately im getting like anywhere between 3-5 nosebleeds a day at all times a day during the last week. My cycle is:
600 Test / week
300 Deca / week
50 Liquid Dbol/ day
like i said i'm on week 7 and probably just being worried but im just checkin up to make sure. Today i went to the store to get my BP checked and its
164 /84...I think its a bit high but im not sure if its anything to worry about. For all ya'll that know anything about this or high Blood Pressure please chime in and help a brotha out..Thanks ya'll

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Old 05-06-2004, 06:52 PM
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Ok everyone i've heard a whole lot about nosebleeds on a cycle and many don't think its true or get flammed for it. This is somewhat serious because lately im getting like anywhere between 3-5 nosebleeds a day at all times a day during the last week. My cycle is:
600 Test / week
300 Deca / week
50 Liquid Dbol/ day
like i said i'm on week 7 and probably just being worried but im just checkin up to make sure. Today i went to the store to get my BP checked and its
164 /84...I think its a bit high but im not sure if its anything to worry about. For all ya'll that know anything about this or high Blood Pressure please chime in and help a brotha out..Thanks ya'll

Deuce

That is high but not that high. Not enough to make you get nosebleeds. When I am on cycle that is basically my BP. Normally I am like 120/60.
You should get a BP cuff for about 75 bucks a good one and learn how to use it. You cannot tell your BP by just taking it once. It fluctuates throughout the day and you must take several readings over several days and take an average.
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That is high but not that high. Not enough to make you get nosebleeds. When I am on cycle that is basically my BP. Normally I am like 120/60.
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Untrue, that is plenty high enough to get nose bleeds!!

On my last cycle my bp was around 140/80 and I had alot of nosebleeds---

Kinda weird because on my current cycle my bp has been around 150-170/80-90 and I havent gotten any nosebleeds--
Only difference is that I wasnt using anti-e last time and now I am

Are you taking any antiestrogens?
If not, I would recommend you start now, ldex at .50mg eod

Drop the dbol,---it gives me killer nosebleeds--

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Untrue, that is plenty high enough to get nose bleeds!!

On my last cycle my bp was around 140/80 and I had alot of nosebleeds---

Kinda weird because on my current cycle my bp has been around 150-170/80-90 and I havent gotten any nosebleeds--
Only difference is that I wasnt using anti-e last time and now I am

Are you taking any antiestrogens?
If not, I would recommend you start now, ldex at .50mg eod

Drop the dbol,---it gives me killer nosebleeds--

Hope that helps


Yep, drop the dbol...shit makes me gush blood...use nolva and adex like mentioned before also...I get the same thing from dbol and tren...
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If I toss masteron in with anythign im taking... i get nosebleeds... Happened last cycle and is happeneing right now durring this cycle... but yeah... your BP is damn high... drop the dbol


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Ok everyone i've heard a whole lot about nosebleeds on a cycle and many don't think its true or get flammed for it. This is somewhat serious because lately im getting like anywhere between 3-5 nosebleeds a day at all times a day during the last week. My cycle is:
600 Test / week
300 Deca / week
50 Liquid Dbol/ day
like i said i'm on week 7 and probably just being worried but im just checkin up to make sure. Today i went to the store to get my BP checked and its
164 /84...I think its a bit high but im not sure if its anything to worry about. For all ya'll that know anything about this or high Blood Pressure please chime in and help a brotha out..Thanks ya'll

Deuce
Its the DBOL, if I take too much it makes me have nose bleeds as well
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Its the DBOL, if I take too much it makes me have nose bleeds as well
AAS's are a blood thinner and it is not uncommon to get nose bleeds. The number of your BP that you should be most concerned about is the diastolic(bottom) reading. This is your resting heart rate. (pressure in the system when the heart is not pumping.)
84 is not a high reading, we dont recommend meds until about 92-94, depending on body composition, weight and age.
I would recommend eating foods high in vitamin K. Vit. K is a blood clotting factor. When someone comes in with a long standing nosebleed, they get a vitamin K shot.

Here is a list of foods high in vitamin K (or you could supplement)

830 - 800 mcg 50 - 10 mcg 10 - 1 mcg
Swiss Chard Soybeans Tomato Sauce
Kale Beans, Snap Tomatoes
540 - 500 Mcg Cabbage, Red Lima Beans
Parsley Avocados Blueberries
440 - 400 Mcg Asparagus Meatloaf
Brussel Sprouts Soybeans, Dry Roasted Mackerel
Spinach Peas Cowpeas (Black Eyed Peas)
380 - 300 Mcg Pickles, Dill Apricots
Purslane Kiwifruit French Fries
270 - 200 Mcg Sauerkraut Tomato Juice
Broccoli Pea Pods Sweet Potatoes
Turnip Greens Abalone Potatoes
Watercress Lentils Spaghetti Sauce
Endive Kidney Beans Cheddar Cheese
Lettuce Leaves Cucumber Grapes
Spring Onions Carrots Squash
170 - 100 Mcg Peppers, Sweet Oatmeal, Instant
Mustard Greens Pumpkin Bread
Cabbage Leeks Peaches
Lettuce, Butterhead Artichoke Beets
Pistachio Nuts Celery Soy Milk
Coleslaw Plums Tofu
Miso Egg Yolk
Peanut Butter Chili Con Carne
Coffee
Bran Flakes
Cauliflower
Puffed Wheat
Pinto Beans
Onions
Potato Chips
Navy Beans
Saltine Crackers
Cranberry Sauce
White Rice
Parsnips
Sour Cream
Pretzels
Cantaloupe Melon


Hope this helps.

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Bro believe me or not. i went to the doctor before for a cold that i could not shake off....cycling of course, and my BP was 170/120. i shit u not. the nurse had to take it twice, one in each arm... she was pretty hot but she didnt make me nervous or nothing. Anyway she literally ran out the room and called the doctor in!!!! The doctor made me lay down on that bed and wait 5min then he took it......still came up 170/100. He said that if it didnt drop he would have to put me on some type of pills before i left his care. Aint that some shit. I was taking 60mg of Dbols ED......but no i never ever had any nose bleeds in my 2 years of juicing.
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Bro believe me or not. i went to the doctor before for a cold that i could not shake off....cycling of course, and my BP was 170/120. i shit u not. the nurse had to take it twice, one in each arm... she was pretty hot but she didnt make me nervous or nothing. Anyway she literally ran out the room and called the doctor in!!!! The doctor made me lay down on that bed and wait 5min then he took it......still came up 170/100. He said that if it didnt drop he would have to put me on some type of pills before i left his care. Aint that some shit. I was taking 60mg of Dbols ED......but no i never ever had any nose bleeds in my 2 years of juicing.

You need more than one reading, cause it my be higher than that. Its the D-ball....any thing that causes water retention. Your BP may be much higher cause we don't know your normal baseline. Usually a increase of 30mmhg systolic, and an increase of 15mmhg diastolic is enough to cause worry. See a doc just in case.
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Its not the Dbol but the resultant estrogen compounds that cause water retention which causes high blood pressure which in turn can cause(not always B Smith)nose bleeds,,,Never heard of aas thinning blood,,,I have heard that it can cause an over production of red blood cells,,,This can cause some serious probs,,,Get Arimidex if you insist on doing aromatisable aas,,, .25mg for under a gram of aromatisables a week,,, .5mg for over a gram,,,Don't want to stop all Estrogen production,,,Need it for calcium absorbtion among other things,,,No osteoporosis for my Bros,,,VDC

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Its not the Dbol but the resultant estrogen compounds that cause water retention which causes high blood pressure which in turn can cause(not always B Smith)nose bleeds,,,Never heard of aas thinning blood,,,I have heard that it can cause an over production of red blood cells,,,This can cause some serious probs,,,Get Arimidex if you insist on doing aromatisable aas,,, .25mg for under a gram of aromatisables a week,,, .5mg for over a gram,,,Don't want to stop all Estrogen production,,,Need it for calcium absorbtion among other things,,,No osteoporosis for my Bros,,,VDC
good luck bro, I would go to a doc and see whats up,
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