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ok, maybe i aint working at this hard enough, but i gott admit to myself my lifting is abismal, for one, i can only bench a 110lbs and squat around a 120lbs.
this is poor aint it? when ive seen 15 year old kids bench 225lbs
ok, its better than last november when i was only lifting no more than 35lbs
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Theres no such thing as a hard gainer, there never has been. Just a lack of knowledge.
its all in how you lifting bro ... can you do me a favor and post your workout routine ... clearly your doing something wrong ...... dennis has a great strength program for bench out on this forum somewhere - ill try and find it again - or if he reads this post maybe he can post it up ...
you can also use the one i did when i first started out ... use the following rep sequences for each set for each set for each pressing exercises ...
12 - 8 - 6 - 4 - 2 ... i started my benching at 85 pounds .. LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYYY LOL ... in about 3months i was doing 145 easy .... which has taught me that its all in the reps man, all in the way you push yourself ...
Heres a little philopshy i always go by ... i try to expose my muscles to endurance, strength and muscle building exercises in each workout - other cycle - 4weeks strength - 6weeks muscle and endurance ... then back to strength ... the following is the rep ranges and what there geared for ... everyones view is different - but this is how ive always thought of it as
1 to 4 reps - pure strength
5 to 6 reps - half way between strength gains and muscle gains
7 to 9 reps - optimum muscle growth
10 to 12 resps - half way between muscle gains and endurance gains
12 + reps - almost pure endurance
after a while though, i must add - bodybuilding and the amount of weight you can lift take a sharp change in paths ... when i bench press now - i go more for how much tear i can get in my pecs .... how low i can get the bar ... how deep of a stretch i get in them - so after a while the weight you lift becomes insignificant ... id rather curl 10pounds with perfect form for 12reps then ... 50pound dumbells for 8 with shit form ... id rather bench 100pounds with perfect form - then take 150 and go down 1/5th of the way and back up - thats actually one of the funniest things at the gym - guys thinking there big shots cuz there lifting big weights - the best is when there getting complimented for it - all the while having shit form - i fucking love it dude - i must have fucking problems, cuz i just sit there with a big smirk on my face ...
the moral of what im trying to say is dont focus on the weight andy, focus on proper excecution with proper rep ranges - the weight will come
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well im about to nuke my routine cos i hate the thing anyway, i duno why the f*ck i even carried on with it.
my current workout for the past 5 weeks has been this.
Mon Sets/Reps
Dips or incline bench press 6 x 3
wide grip pulldowns 6 x 3
Leg Curls 6 x 3
Seated Calf Raises 6 x 3
Wed Sets/Reps
Flat Bench Press 5 x 5
Deadlift 5 x 5
Bent-Over Rows 5 x 5
cable Pushdowns 5 x 5
Donkey Calf Raises 5 x 5
Barbell Curls 5 x 5
Fri Sets/Reps
Incline DB Press 4 x 6
Back Squats 4 x 6
Upright Rows 4 x 6
Close-Grip Bench Press 4 x 6
Standing Calf Raises 4 x 6
Preacher Curls 4 x 6
i do about 20min cardio on my station bike on off days too, that workout above sucks, spend half the time messin about wi my gym equipment changin shit about to much to do the right workouts.
thinking of going back to a more simple 3 day body split, i started working out 2 days a week at first and my routine i came up with for it was ace dude, problem is, i couldnt comeup with anything to add an extra workout day to make it a 3 day job with it so i ditched it. I made great gains with it though from just 2 days
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Theres no such thing as a hard gainer, there never has been. Just a lack of knowledge.
ok, maybe i aint working at this hard enough, but i gott admit to myself my lifting is abismal, for one, i can only bench a 110lbs and squat around a 120lbs.
this is poor aint it? when ive seen 15 year old kids bench 225lbs
ok, its better than last november when i was only lifting no more than 35lbs
I had you as an experience bodybuilding...you sure can talk the stuff pretty well when you chime in or give your opinions. I am not all trying to flame you or poke fun at you because I am at the shape your in in your avatar, but anybody should be able to make gains from your workout, granted it does need some work, but if your on the gear, and eating alot, you should be able to move the weight around pretty good. I don't know your dosages or stuff but I hope you are able to achieve your goals. Good luck mate
I wouldn't focus on the weight that much bro, but if you have the convenience of a workout partner, y'all need to start loading the bar up and taking a little more risk. Let your bones get used to a workload. There are other exercises that strengthen other major bodyparts. Like dips and weighted dips, and go in the gym once and a while and do one exercise for chest. So you dont waste all that time and energy loading and unloading bars and machines.
Go in the gym and dip till ya vomit Just dips. I used to go in the gym and do 50 sets of ten. Thats 500 reps on the dip bars. [You cant do that all the time] but I guarantee your bench will shoot through the roof if you do it once a month, until you can hang with weighted dips. Thats when you will really notice a tremendous increase in strength. Its a proven fact. The other thing is pushups. your next chest workout would be nothing but pushups, about 800 to 1000 pushups. You can do 50 sets of 20, or 30 sets of 30 (thats 990) or 20 sets of 50 to get to a thousand. Then when your next chest day rolls around you will be in shock at how much your bench weights went up!
Pushups put my bench over 300lbs in no time, plates clanging and bar bouncing!
Deadlifts and leg presses do the same thing for squats. Just come in and get on one exercise and ride. Get on leg press and do set after set increasing the weight each time till you max, then do set after set of stripping weights, up one side of the pyramid and down the other. 10 up and 10 down. Your squat will go up 100lbs in two months. So will your bench.
I'm telling you what worked for me, its hard work. Nothing will work, unless you do. You can eat raw meat and fart out co co crispies but unless we take it past the brink of insanity, our bodies wont change. Ive seen guys in jail get monstrous from dips and pushups all natural on a cup-o-noodle diet and commissary junk food. Ive seen guys come in skin and bones and within 3 months blow up huge! Without juice. Im just telling you the truth.
I had you as an experience bodybuilding...you sure can talk the stuff pretty well when you chime in or give your opinions. I am not all trying to flame you or poke fun at you because I am at the shape your in in your avatar, but anybody should be able to make gains from your workout, granted it does need some work, but if your on the gear, and eating alot, you should be able to move the weight around pretty good. I don't know your dosages or stuff but I hope you are able to achieve your goals. Good luck mate
I meant to say I am not at the shape your in your avatar
I had you as an experience bodybuilding...you sure can talk the stuff pretty well when you chime in or give your opinions. I am not all trying to flame you or poke fun at you because I am at the shape your in in your avatar, but anybody should be able to make gains from your workout, granted it does need some work, but if your on the gear, and eating alot, you should be able to move the weight around pretty good. I don't know your dosages or stuff but I hope you are able to achieve your goals. Good luck mate
No kidding I thought the same thing, thats simply not normal at all, especially on roids.
Personally andy you need to go to a Dr. and get some tests done. Have you done that?
Theres something else going on there.
No kidding I thought the same thing, thats simply not normal at all, especially on roids.
Personally andy you need to go to a Dr. and get some tests done. Have you done that?
Theres something else going on there.
andy ... get the tests done to see if everythings okay ... i recall you saying that you have done dbols before - your strength should have shot up ... you have decent knowledge base ... we should just need to figure out where your going wrong ... for the record i dont like your training one bit - stick to a one muscle group a day workout - it is optimal for strength ...
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my gains since last year have come on ok, more than i ever expected, its my strengh thats not really going anywhere. ive gained 12lbs since november and that was before i even started the gear.
that sound like good advice josepee, my workout rigth now sucks.
i originally started out lifting actually just doing one excerize per day for each muscle group.
for example, on a mondday, id do something like this.
mon
flat bench press 5 x 10
BB rows 5 x 10
wed
deadlifts 5 x 10
seated calf raises 5 x 10
fri
dips 5 x 10
chins or WG pulldowns 5 x 10
i made some cracking progress with this method above, why the hell i fixed something that wasnt broke ill never friggin know. why the hell did i even go with this workout im doing now anyway.
agreed Bman, i sure dont like my workout either.
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Theres no such thing as a hard gainer, there never has been. Just a lack of knowledge.
[quote=andysutils;583887]my gains since last year have come on ok, more than i ever expected, its my strengh thats not really going anywhere. ive gained 12lbs since november and that was before i even started the gear.
that sound like good advice josepee, my workout rigth now sucks.
i originally started out lifting actually just doing one excerize per day for each muscle group.
for example, on a mondday, id do something like this.
mon
flat bench press 5 x 10
BB rows 5 x 10
wed
deadlifts 5 x 10
seated calf raises 5 x 10
fri
dips 5 x 10
chins or WG pulldowns 5 x 10
i made some cracking progress with this method above, why the hell i fixed something that wasnt broke ill never friggin know. why the hell did i even go with this workout im doing now anyway.
week as piss 
.. LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYYY LOL ... in about 3months i was doing 145 easy .... which has taught me that its all in the reps man, all in the way you push yourself ...
Just dips. I used to go in the gym and do 50 sets of ten. Thats 500 reps on the dip bars. [You cant do that all the time] but I guarantee your bench will shoot through the roof if you do it once a month, until you can hang with weighted dips. Thats when you will really notice a tremendous increase in strength. Its a proven fact. The other thing is pushups. your next chest workout would be nothing but pushups, about 800 to 1000 pushups. You can do 50 sets of 20, or 30 sets of 30 (thats 990) or 20 sets of 50 to get to a thousand. Then when your next chest day rolls around you will be in shock at how much your bench weights went up! 
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