What AAS are best for keeping gains? Are they all.....

[BubbaEarl]

about the same in that regard? I would think that we would all revert back to what our biology would support and therefore lose everything we gained because of AAS. I am 40 and my natural Test level is dropping every year. I suspect I will be needing a little assistance for the rest of my life.

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by BubbaEarl

about the same in that regard? I would think that we would all revert back to what our biology would support and therefore lose everything we gained because of AAS. I am 40 and my natural Test level is dropping every year. I suspect I will be needing a little assistance for the rest of my life.

You won't be needing anything. The only thing you need to do is sleep, train and eat. Supply with zma if you like. Your test levels are going to be good that way.

[role model]

Bubba, I'm 47 and know exactly what your talking about.
Reinheart's only a kid so he can say that now, in 30 years he'll know what we are talking about.

I would stick with good ol test. It's definitely the safest and works just fine for me.
I've kept at least 1/2 of my gains also. But as you said, the older we get the harder it is to keep anything when we go off.

[BubbaEarl]

Originally Posted by role model

Bubba, I'm 47 and know exactly what your talking about.
Reinheart's only a kid so he can say that now, in 30 years he'll know what we are talking about.

I would stick with good ol test. It's definitely the safest and works just fine for me.
I've kept at least 1/2 of my gains also. But as you said, the older we get the harder it is to keep anything when we go off.

I assume I will have to do 3 to 4 cycles a year to keep the benefits. I am not just talking about muscle. I like the increased sex drive and energy that goes with the Test. That goes away as you get older. The AAS help maintain leanness and muscle. It helps me feel younger. My cycle is 300 Test E 300 Deca 1Xweek Winstrol 50 once a day and it is working great. RoleModel what do you run on an annual basis? I like keeping my Test up. I want to get the most out of the least. Being older, safety has is the number one concern.

[chap]

don't assume that your third or forth cycle will produce the same effects as your first or second cycle

veterans know that some of those great side effects become a little less certain as you go and often the bad side effects can become more noticeable

good luck though, some guys have the genetics to always get good libido and function even on their 10th cycle... other guys find things get out of whack alot easier than others

its not all easy street that the first cycle or two or three get you convinced of, especially when you arent in your 20s or even 30s

[chap]

but to answer your thread title the best, I would say tren would be the best for actually changing your body, but it also can change some things for the worse, so it is a two way street.... I think it is one of the harsher drugs as far as actual endocrine system changes, such as the adrenals etc, for long term health it would be hard to recommend as there are so many unknowns, but it does things to muscle and body composition that very few other steroids can do

[role model]

Originally Posted by BubbaEarl

I assume I will have to do 3 to 4 cycles a year to keep the benefits. I am not just talking about muscle. I like the increased sex drive and energy that goes with the Test. That goes away as you get older. The AAS help maintain leanness and muscle. It helps me feel younger. My cycle is 300 Test E 300 Deca 1Xweek Winstrol 50 once a day and it is working great. RoleModel what do you run on an annual basis? I like keeping my Test up. I want to get the most out of the least. Being older, safety has is the number one concern.

Decca is a no no for an old guy, it will absolutely kill your sex drive, eventually.
In fact it even kills a young guys sex drive.

Test is the main ingredient and I will add 6 weeks of Tren right before summer to get more cut.
But TREN also can kill a persons sex drive, not as bad as Decca though.
The only thing you want to run for sex drive is Test, HGH, HCG and ancillaries ONLY if your estrogen gets to high unless your on a pct.

Also, Chap is correct with everything he said.

[BubbaEarl]

Originally Posted by role model

Decca is a no no for an old guy, it will absolutely kill your sex drive, eventually.
In fact it even kills a young guys sex drive.

Test is the main ingredient and I will add 6 weeks of Tren right before summer to get more cut.
But TREN also can kill a persons sex drive, not as bad as Decca though.
The only thing you want to run for sex drive is Test, HGH, HCG and ancillaries ONLY if your estrogen gets to high unless your on a pct.

Also, Chap is correct with everything he said.

Chap / role model - Tren sounds too harsh. What are the safest AAS? Does anyone run a Test only cycle? What would you recommend I run with a Test cycle if not Deca? I am running Winstrol 50 a day along with the 300 Test E & 300 Deca 1XWeek for 10 weeks. What are your thoughts on the Winstrol being a part of this first cycle? How many cycles do you guys run a year? What would be a good 2nd cycle in your opinion and when should I start it? Chap sort of makes it sound like doing AAS is like making a deal with the devil. Is every cycle less effective and more dangerous and unpredictable than the one before? Can a balance be struck where AAS add to the quality of life without paying a price? I need to learn more about HGH. Isn't the cost prohibitive for the average guy? Most guys my age are not wanting to look iike Jay Cutler, We just want to look better than other 40 year olds. We want feel younger maintain our muscle mass (increase our mass a little). Leanness is more import to us than mass. We want to wake up with a hard-on and safety is our #1 concern. Can those things be achieved without paying a price if AAS are done correctly? Thanks

[juggernaught]

I think test only cycles are fine if it suits your goals , which according to your earlier post sounds like test does

[MrBman]

test is probably the best mass buider by itself when everything is taken into consideration (including side effects) ... tren might be one of the most powerful steroids ever created but you are right it can be very harsh - especially in higher dosages ...

if you want to keep gains, id go with something that builds lean muscle over time - not all out mass - all out mass compounds often involve water retention and a rapid increase in weight... most people think mass is lean muscle, they couldnt be further from the truth ... for the future considering your goals, age and needs id leave deca out if you want to go for more maintainable gains ...

remember lean muscle is difficult to gain, but difficult to lose ... gains yielded over time enable your body to adjust to them ... large increases in weight\/mass severely strain your body - ESPECIALLY the heart ... and make it difficult to hold on to this mass when you finish your cycle ...


Mild Steroids such as the following can be added to Testosterone ...

winstrol, equipoise, turinobol, anavar, masteron and primobolan

these drugs are relatively mild when it comes to side effects, of course side-effects are also dose dependant - these steroids also enable you to maintain your gains after the cycle a lot easier ... always use testosterone with a cycle - even if people tell you otherwise -