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Old 05-21-2006, 08:09 AM
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Hello, i am 27 years old men, i have never used steroids but i have natural ginocemastia ,small penis and low libido, fat on butt and water under skin , no matter what i eat or drink,i am not fat but i have that fat ,big ass, it is ruin my body, my all body,muscle is soft no matter what hard i train and eat a lot o proteins,th ewonder i sthat i am well hairy on my body, i dont understund that, my testosteron from blood is 4 ng /ml and the normal is from 3 to 11 ng/ml, others hormones are in normal too,what should i do? nolwadex?arimidex? femara?aromasin? 6-oxo?nowedex xt? what is the best and the most safest antiestrogen for me that can I take for all time?
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you should be on the mens health forum. that said,you need ti have all of your hormone levels checked;ie..total test,free test,shbg,LH,FSH,cortisol,prolactin,tsh,esradiol. i suspect you have low testosterone but only blood tests can confirm this. do you excericise regularly and diet ? there have never been any real long term studies on anti estrogen use in men.clomid is safe for a few months at a time,nolvadex is not. nolvadex can cause blood clots and there has been some speculation that it can cause prostate cancer.
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anti e's wont help with natural gyno...go speak to a doc or better yet an endocronoligist...seriously, if the post is not a joke..go see an endocronoligist..
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no way to i go to psychician in my country again, i was in many doctors and in Poland they dont know what is hormonal therapy, they say that i am to young ,its all sucks in polish, here is no popular therapy with testosterone,
even in pharmacy they dont have any testosterone!!!please help me ,my life suck,i have no libido,small penis, water under skin,dry skin,soft muscle though that i hard train for many years and eat healthy,natural gynecomasty and a lot of fat on my ass like women, the freaky is that i am very well haired on my body(???why with that low testosterone levels)
what is safest aromasinor nolwadex or arimidex or femara?
is 6-oxo works? chrysin,indole 3 carbinol,???
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none will benefit your situation. You will have to look into other means of hormonal therapy whether they do it in Poland or not.
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drgdrg1,

Sometimes life is cruel and people don't get the best they were hoping for from the gene pool. The fact that you are concerned about your looks is a good thing. You have some options even though your country does not recognize or provide hormone therapy. My recommendations for things you could do to improve your situation would be:


1. Gynocomastia that has been around for a long time needs to be removed by surgery.

2. Testosterone therapy will help with libido and muscle mass. If your country does not have it you can obtain it over the Internet through certain web-sites. (Check into your countries laws in regards to importing steroids) You will need to do research and ask questions to find out what might be appropriate for you in regards to dosing and also proper control of Estrogens.

3. Hair can either be shaven off, waxed off, taken off with Nair, or lasered off. I am hairy as well and just use electric razor and shave whats left. Then I shave in the shower once every 2-3 days.

4. The fat on your ass will not come off with an AI such as arimidex. Fat can only be removed with exercise or liposuction. In your case if you think the fat is from your polish heritage and it is genetic, exercise may not help either. So, I would look into plastic surgery. Liposuction can help and also maybe a hip reduction. Maybe get rid of the gyno at the same time.

What I suggest is not cheap or w/out its risk. It depends on how bad you want to change. You might also go see a psycologist which may change your mind and outlook all together on your body. I don't blame you if you are unhappy with the way you look but, given the right perspective you may decide not to do any of this.

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I have a access to undergroud steroids but what and how dosage i can take?
i want to have hard muscle( no i am very soft though i very hard train), i dont want to have water under skin,i want to have libido and hard erections,i dont want to have a dry skin,i make 3 hours a day cardio on stepper,jogging etc,i eat only proteins now, and fat in my ass dont disappear, i do it for 5 years!!!!with no results,
what can i take recommend, yesterday i bought omnadren250
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