What is an safe dose and how long....

[cathex]

Can anyone tell me what is considered a safe dose of aas (mg/wk) and for how many yrs it would be considered safe to use on and off, say two 10/12 wk courses per yr.

I know it may be difficult to quantify in exact terms but please try to throw a little light on this for us. Perhaps you may know of certain individuals who have been using x amount on and off for x number of years without problems etc. and can cite this as an example.

Wonderful stuff.

[Grizzly]

You can't really quantify it, since there are always exceptions and whatnot, but 2 cycles a year for an infinite period of time should be perfectly healthy and, perhaps, even beneficial to your health.

Personal experience: I've probably spent about 1.5 of the last 3 years "on" and I'm healthy as a horse. I've got the doctor's say so.

[jayce]

Originally Posted by cathex

Can anyone tell me what is considered a safe dose of aas (mg/wk) and for how many yrs it would be considered safe to use on and off, say two 10/12 wk courses per yr.

Just asking this question shows you know nothing about AAS. I doubt you will get the answers you are looking for from replies to this post. You can't say X mgs is safe or not because there is such a variety of AAS. Not only that, AAS work in different ways for different people of different chemisty and skill level. 500 mgs a week of one steroid might be plenty for me but not do a damn thing for a more experienced bro. You can take some steroids for 15 weeks while taking another that long would destroy your liver. Too much variety.

I appreciate you are trying to learn about AAS but don't expect it to be as easy as asking a few questions in a post. Just like all of us, you have to dig in and do the research. If you have questions along the way about something you dont understand the bros and sisters of Meso are quick to help...you just have to do the work.

Good luck,
Jayce

[Grizzly]

You may want to follow your own advice. I've done 20 weeks of orals. Like I said, healthy as a horse with the lab tests to prove it. So, 15 weeks of "something else" will not destroy your liver.

[cathex]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

You may want to follow your own advice. I've done 20 weeks of orals. Like I said, healthy as a horse with the lab tests to prove it. So, 15 weeks of "something else" will not destroy your liver.

Hey thanks for that. That was the kind of reply I was looking for, helpful rather than flaming me for trying to learn, like the reply from the other guy. I'm not a total beginner at this game, I mean common sense tells you that I'd hardly be referring to stuff like Anapalon 50s when looking at long term continuous use. I was referring to the general run-of-the-mill courses like test and deca stacks at say 1000mg/week (500mg of each).

[jayce]

Cathex,
I think you misunderstood my intention. It wasn't a flame so please dont take it as such. I was just expressing that you didn't include any specifics in your original question so it is hard to give you any specific advice. You say "common sense tells you that I'd hardly be referring to stuff like Anapalon 50s when looking at long term continuous use" but there are alot of people posting here that dont have that knowledge and there was nothing in your original post to indicate you did. How was I supposed to know what AAS you were referring to specificly or the amount of experience you had?

Grizz,
I didn't say you can't do a safe long cycle of orals. What I said was some AAS are safer than others at different doses for different people so you can;t just say that X amount is safe and X amount isn't. If I did Dbol for 15 weeks without proper liver protection I probably would not fair so well. You might be able to take those doses and be fine. I don't know. I didn't say it wasn't possible.

Without specifics on Cathex's question, how can you tell him/her what is safe or not for him/her?

Shit on me for trying to help out a person asking advice.

Good luck Cathex and peace Grizz

[KOMT]

Cathex

DO NOT use 1000mg/wk of test your first time out! That is double the amount you need to grow!

Try this: 500mg/wk test
200mg/wk deca
.5 mg of Arimidex a day to keep away the bloat and gyno

Run for 10 weeks....

Clomid post cycle @ 100mg/ed for the first 2 weeks, and 50 mg a day for the next 30 days. This will help you recover your HPTA. (If you don't know what HPTA is, go look it up and learn)

Like the bros above mentioned, do your research before touching AAS.

"but why, KOMT, why do I need to do all this research, can't I just start injecting all this gear i have?"

A: Because you'll maximize your gains, you'll get the most from the gear, and you won't hurt yourself.

Being healthy is what its all about - that means knowing how to use these without harming yourself.