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Old 01-01-2006, 11:42 PM
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o for real i may try that after my program by the way u kno anything that i can take besides creatine and protein that will help me out. Like anavar i think would be best but dont know for sure.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:10 AM
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var and winny would be great..... try some winny and deca...def get u where u want to be....trust me.
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which would be best for vert as winny hurts the joints i was just thinking about var but u said deca. Tell me what you think the best combo is and maybe some dossage tips and how long i should run the cycle for caus ei need 10 inches and ill be at a standing 40 inch vert and im willing to do anything in conjuction with my training to get me there. By the way if you got another way of contact pm me so we can talk more.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:24 AM
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are u lean...what are your stats etc??? height, weight, bf%??
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thats my pic im 5'11 175 bout 9-10 bf
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dont know if u have run anything before but just by looking at you i would run 250-500 mg of test and 400mg of deca a week...for 12 weeks straight... you will stay lean like i do....and eat fairly clean but dont be afraid to eat some fat also.

That will definately do the trick.....

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so ur saying deca over anvar bro? i just want vert and speed really no mass bro so thats why i was saying anavar. Just im me conradical1 so we can talk more bout this.
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quote:What would the best steroid be to increase your vertical leap,speed?

nike air sneakers

but seriously, many althletes who run or do long jumps use winstrol
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so it would be better to use winny and not anvar or just maybe stack both
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in that case....shit run winny only......
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Vertical leap is more directly related to the strength of your posterior chain (hams, glutes and lower back) than anything else. There are a lot of 300 pound powerlifters who have 30-40 inch leaps simply because they are strong as hell. Focus on increasing the strength of those muscle groups and you will jump higher and likely pick up some speed, as well.
Strength is important, but is only part of the equation. The effieciency of your Central Nervous System is extremely important. I know many Olympic lifters that have a great vertical..but not as much with the powerlifters. There is a big difference between the two. Read a book on vertical training. That will be more effective than any AAS.
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so it would be better to use winny and not anvar or just maybe stack both
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try some winny and deca...they'll get you were you want to be...trust me
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What???
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check your pm beefy....
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check your pm beefy....
I know a guy that drank a gallon of water in an hour and a half and gained 8 pounds!!! WOW!!

I don't mean to be a dick, but you and other people giving out bad advice should be flamed so that you aren't taken seriously.

A Deca/Winstrol cycle is a horrible cycle...

Your dick will go limp (unless your natural test levels are through the roof cause your still 17-22 years old) with out test in the cycle.

Deca is a long estered steroid. Winstrol (oral or injected) is short estered...Meaning Deca doesn't kick in for the first 3-5 weeks and it stays in you for 3-5 weeks after your last shot. So you'd have to run winny for at least 6 weeks just to have it in your system with the Deca. Winny is one of the worst of all AAS for your liver meaning you should limit use to 4-6 weeks max. Bad timing.

Deca is an excellent bulker when used properly. Winstrol is a great cutter when used properly. For maximum effect, a cycle should either be a bulker or a cutter. Not both at once.

Granted, diet and training have as much (if not more) to do with bulking/cutting as AAS, but it makes no sense to run a long estered bulker with a short estered cutter with no testosterone.

You should hang out and read meso everyday, but if you feel like typing I suggest you do your History paper because you don't know what the hell you are talking about when it comes to juice.
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