What is your FINA pellet conversion method?

[borrachopower]

havent made it in a while, and ive forgotton....

i want to convert 2 carts 4000mg total

so i crush 2 carts full of pellets and add BA

how much BA do you all use?

does anyone use BB???

[willlaz]

now I know some people won't agree with this but since I just made to 4g carts yesterday...here it goes...

first I start by getting a kit(it really does simplify things) from Mr T.

then, gotta make sure your workplace is clean and sterile so I wipe every surface down with 91% rubbing alcohol

step 1, get pellets out of cart
step 2, get a BIG straw and fold one side closed and staple it shut
step 3, put pellets in straw and crush them with a hammer
step 4, put crushed pellets in the "magic dissolving solution" i.e. BA, and wait for about an hour,
*if the powder is still not completely dissolved, just boil a pot of water and then take it and put it on a range with NO heat. just let the vial sit there for a minute or two with the vial top off. it will turn dark brown but no worries*
step 5, add dissolved pellets and ba to oil (again I buy my oil premixed with BA and BB from either Mr. T or Dazed)
step 6, shake mixture and let it sit for an Hour at the LEAST, this way all the methycellulose gel will sink to the bottom ( tren has NO GLUE OR fillers...just methylcellulose)
step 7, draw as much oil up as possible while avoiding the gunk at the bottom,
step 8, use a 25 micron whatman filter and filter it into another vial,
*another step I like that not everyone does is to take a coffee filter (regular kind) and roll it up into a funnel shape, then fit it into an open empty, STERILE, vial. then just dump the leftover residual gunk from the bottom of the original vial, after it filters for about 30 min. gently squeeze it and get all the oil out of the coffee filter,) then go ahead and put this oil through the whatman filter* all together it should net an extra 5 or 6 cc's

step 9, filter All of it one more time. Usually I wouldn't say this but after just 1 round of the whatman filter yesterday I still had some shit in it...so make sure the tren is NOT cloudy at all.

step 10, either Bake it or add more Ba if you want an extra precaution
step 11. enjoy

hope this helps bro

[jayce]

I would like to know more about volimes of oil and BA used in the process.
Jayce

[gman67]

Here's how I do it. I have a 50ml bottle for brewing whatever,,put the pellets in and add 4 cc ba per cart,,you could probably use half ba and bb but there's little or no pain associated with 4 ba. Let it dissolve or heat a little to speed up the process. Once it's completely dissolved I add the oil,,if I'm making 100mg I'll add 15-18 cc oil, swirl and let sit overnight. Once the fillers settle to the bottom I run it thru a coffee filter and then filter thru a whatman. That's pretty much it. That usually makes 20-22 cc.

[willlaz]

yeaah....dude that's only one cart.

[gman67]

Originally Posted by willlaz

yeaah....dude that's only one cart.

Well if you're referring to my post all you do is double the contents for 2 carts ,pretty simple.

[vegas]

Originally Posted by gman67

Here's how I do it. I have a 50ml bottle for brewing whatever,,put the pellets in and add 4 cc ba per cart,,you could probably use half ba and bb but there's little or no pain associated with 4 ba. Let it dissolve or heat a little to speed up the process. Once it's completely dissolved I add the oil,,if I'm making 100mg I'll add 15-18 cc oil, swirl and let sit overnight. Once the fillers settle to the bottom I run it thru a coffee filter and then filter thru a whatman. That's pretty much it. That usually makes 20-22 cc.

Yeah that looks good Gman. I let mine sit over night after I pour it in the funnel w/coffee filter to let all the oil drip through then squeeze out the rest, toss the filter. It also seems to help with the final filtration if you warm the coffee filtered oil before drawing up for final filtration through whatman filter into sterile vial.......Vegas

[willlaz]

personally I just let it drip for about an hour, I've tried overnight and you might gain maybe a cc...more like half of one as opposed to only letting it drip for an hour. and again I really don't like dealing with adding the BA and the BB, so I just use Mr. T's kit. Plus the tren and sometimes when I make t. prop, both are completely painless injectables

[borrachopower]

Originally Posted by gman67

Here's how I do it. I have a 50ml bottle for brewing whatever,,put the pellets in and add 4 cc ba per cart,,you could probably use half ba and bb but there's little or no pain associated with 4 ba. Let it dissolve or heat a little to speed up the process. Once it's completely dissolved I add the oil,,if I'm making 100mg I'll add 15-18 cc oil, swirl and let sit overnight. Once the fillers settle to the bottom I run it thru a coffee filter and then filter thru a whatman. That's pretty much it. That usually makes 20-22 cc.

4ml's BA ?? is that per cart? wouldnt that hurt like a bitch if your final total volume is 50ml's!! even more concentrated for yours b/c you make 20-33 cc's

how come if you add that much to 50ml's equipoise or test, that pain is almost intolerable?

[gman67]

Originally Posted by borrachopower

4ml's BA ?? is that per cart? wouldnt that hurt like a bitch if your final total volume is 50ml's!! even more concentrated for yours b/c you make 20-33 cc's

how come if you add that much to 50ml's equipoise or test, that pain is almost intolerable?

There will be pain only if you mix it with something like prop,,anything else or by itself there is little or no pain,,believe me I've made it many times,,you can get away with 3cc ba or use 2bb and 2ba which is what I did last time just because I had the bb,,either way there's not much pain,,but that may depend on the individual also.

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by willlaz

personally I just let it drip for about an hour, I've tried overnight and you might gain maybe a cc...more like half of one as opposed to only letting it drip for an hour. and again I really don't like dealing with adding the BA and the BB, so I just use Mr. T's kit. Plus the tren and sometimes when I make t. prop, both are completely painless injectables

Bro i think any kit is going to have BA or BB....That is what the pellets are dissolved in.

[vegas]

Hey bro's....I know I have posted this before but you can go to this link and find all you need for formulation computations.......lots of variations on how to do this....I personally like the white fina conversion process although this does require a little more patience and understanding of basic organic chemistry.......Peace

http://www.basskilleronline.com/fina...ctions_02.html

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by gman67

There will be pain only if you mix it with something like prop,,anything else or by itself there is little or no pain,,believe me I've made it many times,,you can get away with 3cc ba or use 2bb and 2ba which is what I did last time just because I had the bb,,either way there's not much pain,,but that may depend on the individual also.

Bro are you sure you don't mean 3 PERCENT BA??? Because 3mL of BA per cart seems like alot...Each cart is 2000mg...so to make 100mg/mL you need 20mL....3mL of BA is a 7th of 20...Which is like 13 percent BA which would hurt like a bitch.....

[gman67]

Originally Posted by JonTest

Bro are you sure you don't mean 3 PERCENT BA??? Because 3mL of BA per cart seems like alot...Each cart is 2000mg...so to make 100mg/mL you need 20mL....3mL of BA is a 7th of 20...Which is like 13 percent BA which would hurt like a bitch.....

Yes I mean 3ml per cart,,it has never hurt me or any of the other folks I've made it for, unless like I said you mix it with something like prop,,anything else or by itself I've never had a complaint about pain.

[willlaz]

jontest, I realize all kit's have either BA, BB or both in them, but I just prefer to not mess with it. As simple as it is...it's just another step so I say fuck it, I love Mr. T.'s oil. whatever it is, it is the perfect mix of Ba and BB