What's a good drug I can use for bridging?

[dzl66]

Originally Posted by cinnabar8521

Their's no point in doing pct if your gonna bridge, people use the word bridge as a form of denial, bridging is the same as not coming off, a little hcg would help keep the nuts up, but other then that go balls to the wall and just change up what you are using, 5-10 mgs dbol ed will keep you shut down, 5-10 var ed will keep you shut down, so why fuck around with these doses they will do very little for you orther then keep you shut down, I mean you would never do these doses as a cycle so why as a bridge cause bridge is just a term meaning low dose cycle. PCT = post cycle therapy

P.S. creatine would be a good bridge that would let you recover.

No these low doses keep most of the muscle on that you gained from your last cycle until you feel you are ready for another cycle thats why people do them. I guess you can call it a low dose cycle, but it really is what the word means-- joining two things. Yes you will continue to be shut down, but the emphasis is on retaining the gains as opposed to getting your natural T. levels up.

[AirBorne]

Originally Posted by VDC

All good suggestions for bridging,,,but I'm wondering why his PCT is failing,,,Do you use HCG during the cycle at all???The way I use it recovery takes 2 weeks max,,,VDC

Whats up bro

I am curious as to your "2 week method". I feel that PCT didnt go as good for me as it could have and I want to make sure next time I am good to go. LMK if you can THanks alot

AirBorne

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by Tank01

Wait a minute...

A while ago I was talking about bridging and I got shot down for mentioning Anavar.. can someone tell me whats up?

only ones ive heard of were primo and 5-10mg dbol in the Am

ok,

If you were referring to using anavar or any other AAS while doing pct, or thinking a low dose of some AAS wouldn't shut you down and you could take it without any natural Test suppression... that's why you would have been shot down.

A "bridge" is just a low dose cycle in between two high dose cycles. Your HPT axis will continue to be shut down. Doing pct during a bridge is useless although taking HCG during a cycle appears to help speed recovery. Doing a bridge will prevent most strength/muscle loss. However, a 10 week cycle with a 6 week bridge followed by another 10 week cycle is the same thing to your HPTA as a straight 6 month cycle. Not too many people advocate 6 month cycles. The longer the cycle, the longer it takes your HPTA to recover. Depress it often enough, for long enough and you're on HRT for life.

MaxRep

[Phreezer]

Originally Posted by MaxRep

Not too many people advocate 6 month cycles. The longer the cycle, the longer it takes your HPTA to recover. Depress it often enough, for long enough and you're on HRT for life.

MaxRep

This is something everyone needs to pay attention to... There is some misconceptions out there that you can go on for as long as you want, and if your pct is good at the end ofyour cycle you'll be fine.... Or that by taking HGC every week or ED you can keep this from happening... these thoughts are completely bogus.. We must always remember MR's last sentence in the above quote.

[Tank01]

I think the only thing ill be bridging with will be primo at 100mg - 200mg per week as that has been show... to not supress your HPTA.... I dont think there is another drug like that out... allthough ive heard some strange things like the morning dbol thing... as for now im going to just come off everything in about 10 days and run a proper PCT. Thanks for clearing things up Maxrep and Phreezer,

Tank

[Beelzebub]

Back to the original discussion, a good bridge is IGF-1, long form.

[Carlito]

What dose would you recommend?
Thanks!

Originally Posted by Beelzebub

Back to the original discussion, a good bridge is IGF-1, long form.

[Beelzebub]

Being your first time using it, the most common dosage is 20mcg pre-workout and 20mcg post-workout. Be sure to have simple carbs on hand in case you go hypoglycemic. I can find a few good articles on IGF-1 if you wish.

[jboldman]

i have been wondering about the effect of mesterolone both during pct as well as bridging. Studies show that it does not effect the hpta in fairly high dose, would definitely drive the libido. Perhaps it would be enough to maintain muscle as well.

jb

[Beelzebub]

This supports the mesterlone claim:

This study shows no effect on normal LH and FSH with 100-150mg/ d mesterolone, and decrease of FSH/LH that were elevated.
Proviron doesn't substitute Clomid as hpta therapy, but doesn't get in the way, either.
The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

[Carlito]

Ok, how about some test enanthate at clinical doeses, that is 200mg every 2 weeks?

[cinnabar8521]

How about some GH, that would allow you to recover, lean you out and give you some quality gains, a true bridge.

[jboldman]

Since i am an older bbr, i pay attention to some of the sides of pct, namely sexual function. It seems like a lot have difficulty sweating out the pct because of the adverse effects of shutdown on sexual function and turn to bridging as a solution. mesterolone seems like it might be a possible solution, we just need some experimetal subjects to try it out.

jb

[Dart]

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Fuck the bridge, just go off. Get your body in tact and start again in a couple months. You will be happy because you'll gain so much more in the next cycle, and the risk is minimized.

Cheers,
D

[Beelzebub]

Originally Posted by Dart

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Fuck the bridge, just go off. Get your body in tact and start again in a couple months. You will be happy because you'll gain so much more in the next cycle, and the risk is minimized.

Cheers,
D

For the most part, you're completely right. The only effective bridge that will not effect HPTA or hormone levels is IGF-1. You can continue to make lean gains while doing your normal PCT protocol.