When Should the Fun Really Start?

[shreddedwheat]

Hey guys,
as some of you know, I started a "lean bulker" 2 weeks ago - 750mg a week of Test Enanthate with 60mg a day of Tren A. Anyway, I'm feeling quite good, very eager to train and training really well. Thing is, I haven't really noticed any dramatic increase in strength or libido.

I definitely have more stamina; i.e. I can punch out those extra reps; however from all I've read and heard, I would have thought I'd be at least 20% stronger, and seeing significant changes in my body - more definition, loss of bodyfat etc..Diet is spot on.

I'm getting zero sides - no insomnia, no night sweats (although I feel "hotter"). Am I being impatient or does my dosage need looking at? This is my first cycle using Tren; however about my 6th using Test as my base compound. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Cheers, SW

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by shreddedwheat

Hey guys,
as some of you know, I started a "lean bulker" 2 weeks ago - 750mg a week of Test Enanthate with 60mg a day of Tren A. Anyway, I'm feeling quite good, very eager to train and training really well. Thing is, I haven't really noticed any dramatic increase in strength or libido.

I definitely have more stamina; i.e. I can punch out those extra reps; however from all I've read and heard, I would have thought I'd be at least 20% stronger, and seeing significant changes in my body - more definition, loss of bodyfat etc..Diet is spot on.

I'm getting zero sides - no insomnia, no night sweats (although I feel "hotter"). Am I being impatient or does my dosage need looking at? This is my first cycle using Tren; however about my 6th using Test as my base compound. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Cheers, SW

I like the look at your cycle cos im doin one very similar and if you were expecting better gains at this point you should have taken a short ester or sust. cos test E takes a while to really kick in. If your still questioning your progress in 3 weeks you may need to look at your diet or if the gear is legit.

If this is your 6th cycle then you prob should up the Tren to at least 100mg a day. I say keep going and stop questioning your gains every other day and go with the flow. concentrate on a really clean diet with lots of good calories. without being too spesific tho with that in mind you should start lookin good in the next couple of weeks and onward al long as your consistent yes?

[shreddedwheat]

Thanks elgaringo,
I guess I was expecting a little more from the Tren. Haven't experienced the "wow" factor yet.

[advanced-stealth]

I would say it may take about 3 weeks to get some decent results on the Test E, yet the Tren you should be getting some results already.

Give it another week and see how your results are. If needed up the amount of Tren, yet I would not think you need to. 60mg/day should be plenty more than enough your first time around.

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by shreddedwheat

Thanks elgaringo,
I guess I was expecting a little more from the Tren. Haven't experienced the "wow" factor yet.

Looking at my post I posted last night I have to disagree with myself for a change lol. I believe 75mg or 100mg eod is ample tren A for a first timer. only after a few cycles would I agree with upping it. The fact is you should get results and remember the steroids only give you more potential to improve. Its the correct food, training and rest that makes it happen

[dennis]

Originally Posted by elgaringo

Looking at my post I posted last night I have to disagree with myself for a change lol. I believe 75mg or 100mg eod is ample tren A for a first timer. only after a few cycles would I agree with upping it. The fact is you should get results and remember the steroids only give you more potential to improve. Its the correct food, training and rest that makes it happen

Thank God you changed this ! 700 mgs tren ewShredded..you should start to see difference in mirror anytime now.....I cannot believe the sexual functions are still normal ?!

[Fraggle]

Ummm, so at 60mg/day of tren you should absolutely be experiencing some differences, one cycle, six cycles or ten cycles. Depending on how lean you are, you would only just begin seeing the physical changes, but you should have already seen some differences in strength. I also become more focused everywhere, not just in the gym. Even walking down the street I feel more intense, more in control, more powerful. Heady stuff. That said, a 20% change in strength is way to much to expect. Particularly if you have done six cycles and are already putting up heavy weights. If you jumped 20% in max weight in two weeks when you are already neurologically adapted to the exercises, you would end up hurting yourself. Badly. Torn ligament, muscle, broken bones, whatever. Just give it a bit of time, and set realistic goals.

Fraggle.

[LifeSize]

damn now you got me wanting to bump up the Tren.. or the Test.. heh..

I'm almost 30 days, differences but nothing crazy.. starting bf% matters.

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by dennis

Thank God you changed this ! 700 mgs tren ewShredded..you should start to see difference in mirror anytime now.....I cannot believe the sexual functions are still normal ?!

Yeah I started a tren a and sust cycle last week and im expecting to be seriously abusing our lass very soon

[shreddedwheat]

Thanks for the advice guys; cheers Shredded. By the way, after my workout yesterday I did get some very positive comments from some fellow bber's. It's harder to see changes in yourself than it is for others!
p.s. I'll let you know how I'm travelling next week.