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Old 06-10-2004, 11:42 PM
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i have 10 ml of Tren Enth. wondering where to add it and how much in this cycle.

weeks 1-10
750 test enth
400 deca
50 dbol(wk1-4)

weeks 11-20
750 test enth
400 eq
50 winny(wk17-20)

i was thinking 375 on weeks 8-13?
thoughts?
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i have 10 ml of Tren Enth. wondering where to add it and how much in this cycle.

weeks 1-10
750 test enth
400 deca
50 dbol(wk1-4)

weeks 11-20
750 test enth
400 eq
50 winny(wk17-20)

i was thinking 375 on weeks 8-13?
thoughts?
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375 on weeks 8-13 would not be smart. It is tren enth. therefore it is a longer acting ester you would be right in the middle of it kicking in so why would you stop it. WIth only 10ml the best thing to do would be run 250mgs weeks 1-10.
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I think the best place to put the Tren E. would be my house.
You don't want to mess with that, I'll take care of it for you!!

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I think the best place to put the Tren E. would be my house.
You don't want to mess with that, I'll take care of it for you!!

J/K LOL 250mg per week 1-10
I agree with these guys...weeks 1-10 250.
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1-10 250 mgs per week is your only option unless you get more.
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yup, the guys got it right. Weeks 1-10.
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You need to run it at least 10 weeks IMO, but I would say get another bottle and run it at 500mgs/wk. I think you will be much happoer witht the results.
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i may be wrong but i dont think you need to run deca and tren at the same time. i would think this could really cause some serious prolactin issues. dif need to include some ae in this cycle. maybe enstein can chime in here and tell you more.



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i may be wrong but i dont think you need to run deca and tren at the same time. i would think this could really cause some serious prolactin issues. dif need to include some ae in this cycle. maybe enstein can chime in here and tell you more.



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pump/ i had also read this at one time about not using tren with deca. anybody else got some input?
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I would use it week 1-10 as the eq and test will help hold the gains you make from it.
Tren+deca will shut you down real hard I would scrap deca from the cycle.
I ran dbol with tren and had cramps from hell.
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I don't think I buy the "shut you down hard" theory. All AAS will shut you down. I think the length of the cycle has more to do with how easy or hard a time your body has getting back to normal than the gear used during the cycle. Quite simply, all AAS stops your body from producing its own test. If you plan and execute your PCT correctly, the gear used during the cycle should be inconsequential. And during the cycle, you would be using ancillaries like Arimidex or Femara, Nolva, HCG, etc. depending on what gear you are using, for how long, and at what dosage, so those along with proper PCT should make the gear used during the cycle a non-issue.

I say all this because I have done both Deca and Tren together as well as seperately, and have not noticed any difference in recovery times. I also don't get a lot of the sides from either of these drugs that a lot of guys complain about (except the dreaded bacne, but I get that with any gear), so you can't say matter of factly that such and such gear will shut you down hard, because everybody is different.

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Noneck, I agree with you. I've run both together, and separate. Proper PCT!!!
The only thing I noticed was at higher doses of both together (I was taking 600mg Deca, and 500mg Tren E. per week) with 1500mg Test, was that I was a little more agressive than normal.
I ran Nolva during the cycle, HCG at the end, and Clomid afterwards.
This seemed to do the trick, No problems.

PS, I'm not advacating higher doses, I've been cycling over 20yrs.
It seems we get some kind of tolerance to gear over the yrs.
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I don't think I buy the "shut you down hard" theory. All AAS will shut you down. I think the length of the cycle has more to do with how easy or hard a time your body has getting back to normal than the gear used during the cycle. Quite simply, all AAS stops your body from producing its own test. If you plan and execute your PCT correctly, the gear used during the cycle should be inconsequential. And during the cycle, you would be using ancillaries like Arimidex or Femara, Nolva, HCG, etc. depending on what gear you are using, for how long, and at what dosage, so those along with proper PCT should make the gear used during the cycle a non-issue.

I say all this because I have done both Deca and Tren together as well as seperately, and have not noticed any difference in recovery times. I also don't get a lot of the sides from either of these drugs that a lot of guys complain about (except the dreaded bacne, but I get that with any gear), so you can't say matter of factly that such and such gear will shut you down hard, because everybody is different.

And now for the flames...
yea i dont buy the shut down hard theory either. but i did read some where about the gyno sides can get out of hand with these two. ive been search different boards, but cant find it. hell maybe i was dreaming or drinking.



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