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Old 12-18-2005, 02:24 PM
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Do you believe in tapering off your AAS,

I am doing a small test. only cycle, so I don't know if its
that important, but I was wondering if you all believe in tapering
the doses toward the end of the cycle.

Would it be an issue to taper past the 12 week mark?

Long ways to go still, just wondering...
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:26 PM
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there is no reason to taper IMO - some say it makes recovery easier but I have never found that to be true
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no taper, no point...exogenous test= suppression= no recovery of HPTA therefore either full on , or off ...then start PCT
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Now for my question . If Tren shuts one's HPTA down HARDER than other AAS,how would tapering NOT work? ... BTW i don't believe in tapering,but i also don't believe in being shut down HARDER
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Yeah,
Didn't give much thought to it,

My guess with Tren would be that it just provides a stronger negative
feed back loop, but whether yout suppressed from Test. or really suppressed
from Tren, both ways you have to jump start your boys
and so if tapering wont help one way, it wont help the other
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Yeah,
Didn't give much thought to it,

My guess with Tren would be that it just provides a stronger negative
feed back loop, but whether yout suppressed from Test. or really suppressed
from Tren, both ways you have to jump start your boys
and so if tapering wont help one way, it wont help the other
I think when people say Tren shuts Hypo down harder,they really mean longer because most guys won't have progest controlled after cycle,like they would estrogen,which makes it harder for the human body to recover after Tren cycle .. Boy am i glad i'm not human
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Talking I worry about MW

I havn't been posting here for long,
did most of my learning by myself...

But, I have read a lot of threads from start to finish,
and I worry about you Manwhore, I really do...

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I havn't been posting here for long,
did most of my learning by myself...

But, I have read a lot of threads from start to finish,
and I worry about you Manwhore, I really do...

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So do i my friend .. so do i
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Do you believe in tapering off your AAS,

I am doing a small test. only cycle, so I don't know if its
that important, but I was wondering if you all believe in tapering
the doses toward the end of the cycle.

Would it be an issue to taper past the 12 week mark?

Long ways to go still, just wondering...
Long estered steroids always taper off. If you took your last shot today, the steroid wouldn't clear your system totally for at least 8-10 days. Longer depending on dosage and which AAS. They gradually build up and gradually decrease on their own, which is why pyramid cycling is junk...
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Personally I'm coming around to the belief that tapering down might have some merit to it. Now it's not going to prevent the suppression of endogenous test, but the HPTA is a complex muli-dimensional system, and there are different magnitudes of being out of equilibrium. I suspect the closer your HPTA is to equilibrium in 'phase space', the easier your recovery will be. Based on this running a lower dose for a couple of weeks at the end of cycle allows your estogen and progesterone levels to return closer to their normal values. Plus SHBG, DHT and cortisol levels probably have feedback effects as well. By allowing a 'partial' recovery along these axes, it would seem much easier for the HPTA to return to a stable point since fewer paramaters are out of normal ranges. At this point, this is mostly speculation, but I may give it a try on my next PCT.
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Personally I'm coming around to the belief that tapering down might have some merit to it. Now it's not going to prevent the suppression of endogenous test, but the HPTA is a complex muli-dimensional system, and there are different magnitudes of being out of equilibrium. I suspect the closer your HPTA is to equilibrium in 'phase space', the easier your recovery will be. Based on this running a lower dose for a couple of weeks at the end of cycle allows your estogen and progesterone levels to return closer to their normal values. Plus SHBG, DHT and cortisol levels probably have feedback effects as well. By allowing a 'partial' recovery along these axes, it would seem much easier for the HPTA to return to a stable point since fewer paramaters are out of normal ranges. At this point, this is mostly speculation, but I may give it a try on my next PCT.
That makes sense to me .. So basically what your saying is that i should probably run Tren a little longer ... It really does make sense to me. Now will i try it .. Probably not,but i would like to hear what happens after you try it
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all drugs leave the body in half lifes - so in fact if you run one dose straight through you in fact do taper in the end - but actual dose tapering is still not needed IMO
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Deacon,how long did it take before you felt Tren A,when you used it?
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I like tapering my new olives and grape tapestery.....but aas..no..
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I like tapering my new olives and grape tapestery.....but aas..no..
I don't believe in tapering...Duchaine didn't at the end...Llewellyn doesn't....Bill Roberts doesn't....

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