As far as the pain goes if ya mix it half and half with another for i.e 1cc of
prop and 1cc of
tren in the same syringe its painless. No lumbs or crippling soreness.
Its hard to say about the water retention as i always start dosin with liquidex at.25mg ed when i start a cycle.
I just like the fast acting nature of the
prop ester.
If you can get your hands on some liquidex then you may want o consider
cyp or enth, just to reduce the number of injects on a 10 weeker.
You can throw in some d-bol at 40mg's a day to kick start the gains until the
test (enth or
cyp) kicks in.
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