why bother with PCT when married

[MaxRep]

Keeping in mind that most normal men have test levels roughly in the range of 500-900 ng/dl...
and that AAS using men can have serum test levels of 5,000 ng/dl +++

It's no wonder women have no sex drive compared to us.

What would your sex drive be like if your test level was only 14ng/dl!? That would really suck!

MaxRep
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1: Endocr Pract. 1999;5(6):322-329.
SERUM TESTOSTERONE LEVELS AND REFERENCE RANGES IN REPRODUCTIVE-AGE WOMEN.

Ayala MPH PhD C, Steinberger MD FACE E, Smith MD FACE KD, Rodriguez-Rigau MD FACE LJ, Petak MD FACE SM.

Texas Institute for Reproductive Medicine & Endocrinology, Houston, Texas, and Texas Women's University, Houston, Texas, and Medical School of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, Houston, Texas.

Objective: To determine the levels of serum testosterone and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS) in women with no clinical signs of hyperandrogenism and no history of glucocorticoid or oral contraceptive use and to compare these levels with the reference ranges provided by commercial laboratories. Methods: We undertook a cross-sectional retrospective study of 271 reproductive-age women encountered at an endocrinology clinic for complaints of potential thyroid problems. Serum testosterone and DHEAS levels were determined, and statistical analyses were performed.

Results: The serum testosterone level in women with no acne, hirsutism, or menstrual dysfunction was 14.1 +/- 0.9 ng/dL (mean +/- standard error of the mean) (95% confidence interval [CI] = 12.4 to 15.8). This group was considered our study reference population.

In women with menstrual dysfunction but no acne or hirsutism, the mean testosterone level was significantly higher (17.9 +/- 1.1 ng/dL; 95% CI = 15.7 to 20.0; P<0.002); with mild hirsutism, it further increased (38.4 +/- 5.1 ng/dL; 95% CI = 27.4 to 49.4; P<0.005); and with moderate to severe hirsutism, it was still higher (49.0 +/- 2.3 ng/dL; 95% CI = 44.4 to 53.6; P<0.003). Serum DHEAS levels showed similar patterns. The upper limit (mean + 2 standard deviations) of testosterone in our study reference population was 28 ng/dL, a level that provided a sensitivity of 84% for detecting hyperandrogenemia. The detection of hyperandrogenemia is essentially impossible when the upper limit of the reference range for testosterone from commercial laboratories (95 ng/dL) is used. Conclusion: The testosterone levels reported herein and in the literature for hyperandrogenic women both are within the reference (normal) ranges provided by commercial laboratories. These observations demonstrate why diagnosis of hyperandrogenemia in hyperandrogenic women is difficult when commercial laboratories are used and why this condition is not detected in most affected women. Commercial laboratories should reevaluate the methods used for establishing their reference ranges for serum testosterone.

PMID: 15251653 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

[john_phillips]

Is marriage really as bad as some of the fellas are making it sound?

JaPe

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by john_phillips

Is marriage really as bad as some of the fellas are making it sound?

JaPe

Absolutely not! I've been extremely happily married for almost 6 years. Together for 4 years before getting married. My wife cooks all my meals, takes great care of our daughter, our home and gives me great bedroom loving about every other day.

I should mention that I do well enough that she doesn't have to work outside the home. I'm sure a woman working all day isn't going to have the energy to take care of the house, family and her man the way a stay at home wife can.

I have found from my male friends that the primary problem between married couples is most often money. Get your career/business in order and yourself financially on solid ground before marriage, and you'll give yourself and your marriage a big advantage for success. Obviously money isn't the only issue as many people with money still have problems but at least it eliminates one of the biggest areas of potential problems. It's a lot easier to snuggle and love when how to pay the mortgage isn't on a woman's mind.

Good luck,
MaxRep

[-2z-]

Originally Posted by john_phillips

Is marriage really as bad as some of the fellas are making it sound?

JaPe

Nah...don't mind me. Everything else is great. We get along just fine. It's just the lack of sex thing that's weird. She's just as wigged as I am. A while back she kept up with me just fine, so this is a suprise to both of us. We've talked about getting blood work done too...so who knows.

I was married for three years, and the last year or so was just like the situation your in now. I call it a dead marriage, not that you should give up, or anything; but, unless there's some chemical imbalance in your wife's brain that shuts down her sex drive, I'd bet money she's having sex with someone else.

This is sick...but... I wish it were that easy....then I'd just move on and be done with it.