Why are cigarettes still legal???

[dumbbellpress]

I am so pissed off at this new ban on Ephedra I feel like assaulting Mother Theresa.

Q for ya'll - ephedra has maybe, and that is a big maybe, contributed to the deaths of 40-50 people nationwide. Soon the sale of it will be illegal.

It is has been proven in study after study after study after study that cigarettes annualy kill tens of thousands of Americans. And even for those Americans that do not smoke, second hand smoke is just as deleterious if not moreso than the first hand smoke. Are we as Americans this paralyzed by powerful lobbies that we cannot make progressive changes in the laws that govern our land???

President Bush is a dickhead.

dumbbellpress Future Husband of Jennifer Love Hewitt Cowboys 2004 Super Bowl Champs

[EDED]

senior bush is the one who signed the bill that put AAS in the Schedule III category...i think.

the bushs dont like bodybuilders i guess.

[stevemac]

ephedra was banned in canada last summer, I thoughtthe US banned it then also. It's pretty rediculous if you ask me. From what I know all the deaths from ephedra came from misuse and preexisting medical conditions. I love the stuff, never did me any harm. Geeez, cigerettes and alcohol are way more deadly.

[Bob Smith]

Numerous studies have repeatedly shown that ephedrine use is safe and effective for fat loss. It also has a legitimate medical use as a bronchiodilator.

IMO, the push behind the ban on ephedrine is from the pharm companies. They havent been able to design a prescription product that has shown more results than a simple OTC supplement that costs 10x less than any script. IIRC, EC was shown to be almost 2x more effective (and with less side effects) than Meridia. The pharm lobby is many factors larger than any supplement lobby and has WAY more money. The lobbies with the most money win.

[Trenman]

To answer your question, because the gov't make so d*mn much money off of the tabacco industry.

[tazz]

ephedra now, pro-hormones later. . .. . what a joke . . .

[tazz]

I think we have until April to stock up . . . . then it is gone forever as a legal supplement

[morepain]

Why?? Money, how many lobbyists does the supplement industry have on capitol hill padding the pockets of senators and congressmen? answer = 0 How many lobbyists does the tobacco industry have padding the pockets of these individuals? answer = thousands. Not to mention the "influence" the pharmacuetical industry has on washington, it is kind of hard for drug companies to make ridiculous profits on weight loss drugs when there is a natural legal alternative that works better. So, what do they do? Start a propaganda campaign tracking down every instance of someone getting a freaking headache from ephedra and "educating" the public on the evils of its use. All the while putting prescription weight loss drugs down the throats of fat bastards everywhere that are far more harmful than ephedra could ever be. I am also quite pissed about this, could you tell?

[Green Darter]

Originally Posted by dumbbellpress

I am so pissed off at this new ban on Ephedra I feel like assaulting Mother Theresa.

Q for ya'll - ephedra has maybe, and that is a big maybe, contributed to the deaths of 40-50 people nationwide. Soon the sale of it will be illegal.

It is has been proven in study after study after study after study that cigarettes annualy kill tens of thousands of Americans. And even for those Americans that do not smoke, second hand smoke is just as deleterious if not moreso than the first hand smoke. Are we as Americans this paralyzed by powerful lobbies that we cannot make progressive changes in the laws that govern our land???

President Bush is a dickhead.

dumbbellpress Future Husband of Jennifer Love Hewitt Cowboys 2004 Super Bowl Champs

Hey dont blame Mother Theresa.Blame BOTH political parties.The Pres signed it but EVERY single Dem pushed it and every Rep except 2 was for it also.So blame them both.
Like someone here said Ephedra works you dont need a prescription for it and the Pharmacuetical companies that OWN BOTH PARTIES was not going to tolerate that.I read a report that said only a few actually died on it the rest had other drugs in their system combined with ephedra but again a few did die and that was all that was needed.
I stocked up on it heehee I saw this coming.It last for 5 yrs than goes bad good enough for me.I only take 1 before I workout 3times aweek.You still have time to stock up on it but after the ban dont even consider giving 1 tablet to anyone.Prohormones are next to go because they are also taking money away.
If something really works and you can buy it without a prescription its on borrowed time.
Darter

[Green Darter]

Originally Posted by morepain

Why?? Money, how many lobbyists does the supplement industry have on capitol hill padding the pockets of senators and congressmen? answer = 0 How many lobbyists does the tobacco industry have padding the pockets of these individuals? answer = thousands. Not to mention the "influence" the pharmacuetical industry has on washington, it is kind of hard for drug companies to make ridiculous profits on weight loss drugs when there is a natural legal alternative that works better. So, what do they do? Start a propaganda campaign tracking down every instance of someone getting a freaking headache from ephedra and "educating" the public on the evils of its use. All the while putting prescription weight loss drugs down the throats of fat bastards everywhere that are far more harmful than ephedra could ever be. I am also quite pissed about this, could you tell?

Very nicely said.The day that vit C is actually shown to prevent colds and more people took it.The pharmacuetical companies would have that taken off the shelf to.If ephedra was owned by this out of control industry than you would still be able to buy it.
Perhaps one day they will market it but ofcourse for about 20 times what you could buy it before they owned it.

[crewboss]

all very true bro's. it's hypocracy at it's best. stock up now.

peace. crew.

[bigwil]

Originally Posted by dumbbellpress

I am so pissed off at this new ban on Ephedra I feel like assaulting Mother Theresa.

Q for ya'll - ephedra has maybe, and that is a big maybe, contributed to the deaths of 40-50 people nationwide. Soon the sale of it will be illegal.

It is has been proven in study after study after study after study that cigarettes annualy kill tens of thousands of Americans. And even for those Americans that do not smoke, second hand smoke is just as deleterious if not moreso than the first hand smoke. Are we as Americans this paralyzed by powerful lobbies that we cannot make progressive changes in the laws that govern our land???

President Bush is a dickhead.

dumbbellpress Future Husband of Jennifer Love Hewitt Cowboys 2004 Super Bowl Champs

I think cigarettes are still legal because the goverment makes alot of taxes from them. I live in Nebraska where ephedra is already illegal. Just buy as much as possible now and when you can't but any more in the us we will just have to result to the black market. We will still be able to get ephedra. Later, bigwil

[bigwil]

Originally Posted by tazz

ephedra now, pro-hormones later. . .. . what a joke . . .

I know this sucks but who uses pro-hormones anyway? We will get ephredra just like we get AAS. bigwil

[Grizzly]

Like has been said before, money is the answer.

DBP, I hate to tell you, but 2nd hand smoke is in no way shape or form deleterious(and especially not more deleterious) to someone's health. Good job of seeing through the ephedra propaganda and falling hook, line and sinker for the anti-smoker's propaganda.

[manfreakca]

All you guys are right.From pharmacy companies,losin there green backs to bush not likin us gear users.Fuck i was up to 6 xanadrine pills a day im still here!!!!