Why test in every cycle?

[DrMCM]

First, let me say this question is to gain knowledge, not to question the validity of the experiences of those here who know infinitely more than I.

Every newbie cycle question that does not include test is told to INCLUDE TEST ON EVERY CYCLE. I understand the deca dick problem and why you would use test to keep your libido intact.

In "Chemical Muscle Enhancement",. the author's recommended first year cycle does not include test at all. It does start with a deca only cycle for the first four weeks. It also says something to the effect that high doses of highly androgenic compounds as a newbie may limit gains later on, and obviously higher androgenics have higher incidence of sides. I also got the impression that he felt that gains made from more anabolic compounds were more easily maintained than those from high androgens.

I know that there are different schools of thought on EVERYTHING, and I would like to see this debated a little here. I know, shut up and do the test.

I have to say that you guys rock, I have learned so much from this board in the last three months. Training, diet, etc. Not to mention the great entertainment.
Thanks for the knowledge.

[01dragonslayer]

IMO test should be included into every cycle because of its awesome synergistic properties. Meaning that it will assist or aide to the activity of another substance(anabolic).

[PDP]

1.) Test is the chief anabolic produced naturally by a human beings
2.) It is hard to improve on nature, test has both anabolic and androgenic properties and encompasses the widest range of growth mechanisms of any AAS in most peoples opinion (see Roberts type I/II dichotomy as an example of this mode of thinking)
3.) Test use, in reasonable amounts will NOT reduce the potential for gains in latter cycles. Long term androgen receptor regulation is an issue that has been beaten to death.
4.) Test is less toxic than most artificial AAS
5.) Test, as the chief natural androgen in the human body is the best suited to maintaining the most “natural state of affairs” in a systemic sense
6.) Androgenic compounds such as testosterone do have side effects, one of them is the ability to maintain sexual function, a “side effect” often missing from an anabolic or even non-aromatizing androgens
7.) Gains achieved by testosterone will often entail water retention, as such many view these gains as being of less quality or fleeting in nature. This can and MUST be mitigated by the proper use of anti-estrogens. Further, as with ALL AAS, proper post cycle procedures must be employed to retain gains.
8.) The conversion to estrogen, which must be controlled (see #7) also plays a part in aiding muscular hypertrophy. Test aromatizes into estrogen.
9.) Test is the best muscle building AAS, there is no reason to “wait” to use it.
10.) Test is the gold standard, no other compound, all in all, has the muscle building potential that test has.

[BigDrip]

So what your saying is: "Test is Best"

[hardcore210]

Originally Posted by PDP

1.) Test is the chief anabolic produced naturally by a human beings
2.) It is hard to improve on nature, test has both anabolic and androgenic properties and encompasses the widest range of growth mechanisms of any AAS in most peoples opinion (see Roberts type I/II dichotomy as an example of this mode of thinking)
3.) Test use, in reasonable amounts will NOT reduce the potential for gains in latter cycles. Long term androgen receptor regulation is an issue that has been beaten to death.
4.) Test is less toxic than most artificial AAS
5.) Test, as the chief natural androgen in the human body is the best suited to maintaining the most “natural state of affairs” in a systemic sense
6.) Androgenic compounds such as testosterone do have side effects, one of them is the ability to maintain sexual function, a “side effect” often missing from an anabolic or even non-aromatizing androgens
7.) Gains achieved by testosterone will often entail water retention, as such many view these gains as being of less quality or fleeting in nature. This can and MUST be mitigated by the proper use of anti-estrogens. Further, as with ALL AAS, proper post cycle procedures must be employed to retain gains.
8.) The conversion to estrogen, which must be controlled (see #7) also plays a part in aiding muscular hypertrophy. Test aromatizes into estrogen.
9.) Test is the best muscle building AAS, there is no reason to “wait” to use it.
10.) Test is the gold standard, no other compound, all in all, has the muscle building potential that test has.

Good info!

[Captain Planet]

PDP pretty much said it, thats sticky material right there IMO. I have something to share from personal experience. I am sure there are at least a few of you who have done d-bol only cycles (first cycle), and I am one of them . Even though I was pretty prepared for the cycle, I had anti-e's and even PCT protocol, my energy was lagging during the cycle. I used d-bol @ 45mg ED for 6 weeks, and after the first week I had almost no energy at all. Finding the will to work out was tough, something that it had never been before. Test keeps the energy levels up as well as does so many other things for the body that no AAS does. Like has been already said, its hard to improve on nature.

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by Captain Planet

PDP pretty much said it, thats sticky material right there IMO. I have something to share from personal experience. I am sure there are at least a few of you who have done d-bol only cycles (first cycle), and I am one of them . Even though I was pretty prepared for the cycle, I had anti-e's and even PCT protocol, my energy was lagging during the cycle. I used d-bol @ 45mg ED for 6 weeks, and after the first week I had almost no energy at all. Finding the will to work out was tough, something that it had never been before. Test keeps the energy levels up as well as does so many other things for the body that no AAS does. Like has been already said, its hard to improve on nature.

test is best, mixes well with everything,

[SikFuk!]

How are the effects on temper compared to other AAS's - I did a small cycle of Deca last year and I was a little tempermental - I would expect, for no real reason, that Test would increase my temper even more....another thing strange...when I did my 5 weeks of Deca last year, I didn't get Deca Dick, in fact I was f*cking my Lady EOD

[Deacon]

test is king