Why the frontloading?

[MANWHORE]

Doesn't anyone have patience,anymore? Your going to get the results,i mean your using aas. I say just run a longer cycle,and let the gains gradually come. The strength your going to get from running an average dose is going to be hard enough on your body,so why make it even harder by raising the dose so much in the begining. Let your body adjust,at least a little

[SikFuk!]

Front Loading isn't bad...for gear to work at it's best you need to reach a "steady state" concentration. Basically, when you first inject say 500mg of test cyp, ~12 days later, half of that is gone leaving only 250 mg's in your system...but at 7 days you add another 500mgs...if you work out the numbers for half life concentrations in your system at each point during your cycle and take into consideration how much you inject each week, you will find that after a few weeks you will reach a steady state concentration of the cyp in your system...so if you keep adding the same 500mgs/week you will not increase the concentration in your system that much - hence why it is called "steady state"...while at this concentration you will get the most benefit from your gear. People front load to get to this concentration faster...it isn't bad, and it actually helps you get the most for your pain, time and money...especially if the alternative is to run more for longer....just my two cents...no flames intended.

[wolfman]

Originally Posted by SikFuk!

Front Loading isn't bad...for gear to work at it's best you need to reach a "steady state" concentration. Basically, when you first inject say 500mg of test cyp, ~12 days later, half of that is gone leaving only 250 mg's in your system...but at 7 days you add another 500mgs...if you work out the numbers for half life concentrations in your system at each point during your cycle and take into consideration how much you inject each week, you will find that after a few weeks you will reach a steady state concentration of the cyp in your system...so if you keep adding the same 500mgs/week you will not increase the concentration in your system that much - hence why it is called "steady state"...while at this concentration you will get the most benefit from your gear. People front load to get to this concentration faster...it isn't bad, and it actually helps you get the most for your pain, time and money...especially if the alternative is to run more for longer....just my two cents...no flames intended.

Very well put. The only thing I might add is that frontloading is almost a necessity if you're not kickstarting the cycle off with an oral AAS. If you're kickstarting the first 4-6 weeks with an oral, I doubt that you'll notice much of a difference with frontloading the injectables, so in this case, one may be better suited to "saving the gear" and extending the cycle. Just My opinion

wolfman

[r00tz]

I've tried frontloading and honestly, I didn't notice all that much difference in the time it took to kick in as compared to not frontloading.

[dumbbellpress]

Even if you are using orals at the start of your cycle, I still recommend frontloading. Frontloading is a very good idea.

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[HCgrip]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

Doesn't anyone have patience,anymore? Your going to get the results,i mean your using aas. I say just run a longer cycle,and let the gains gradually come. The strength your going to get from running an average dose is going to be hard enough on your body,so why make it even harder by raising the dose so much in the begining. Let your body adjust,at least a little

It's not about patience. It's about being at peak levels for the most amount of time without having to be suppressed as long. If you don't frontload, it will take you longer to reach peak levels. Running the cycle longer means you increase total amount of time being "on", and thus are suppressed longer. It also means those first few weeks you're essentially just waiting until it "kicks" in.

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[gman67]

Well in all honesty I gave it a try and didn't notice squat until the 4th wk as usual. I hate to be so blunt about it but that's exactly what I got from it,,I would save the long ester gear you're planning on using to frontload for another cycle and get some cheap prop to start the cycle with.

[gixxerboy]

Originally Posted by gman67

Well in all honesty I gave it a try and didn't notice squat until the 4th wk as usual. I hate to be so blunt about it but that's exactly what I got from it,,I would save the long ester gear you're planning on using to frontload for another cycle and get some cheap prop to start the cycle with.

Thats how i frontload. Not upping the doses on the long esters but I add in prop the first 2 weeks. So for the 1st 2 weeks im on enethate and prop.