Winny alone, Good or Bad?

[dish_bizkit]

Hey Guys,

Money is kind of tight right now, but I have 2 10ml vials of 50mg/ml Winny. I can't afford to get anything else right now. So what do you guys think of a cycle with Winny alone. I am 5'10" 175lbs will I gain some muscle or lean up more if I do it? Sorry if this a stupid question. I am still learning about this stuff.

Thanks!!

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

IMO I think it would be a waste to run winny alone. You should run it with a test. Prop. is a good one to run if you are looking to lean out, and the shot schedule would be the same.

[dish_bizkit]

Thanks Bro! Anyone have any other opinions?

[jbrand]

I've had good results running winny solo with a calorie deficit during cutting. As far as muscle growth, it is definetely limited. As far as muscle/strength preservation when calories are dipping low, I've found it to be a good tool. If you are looking to put on sheer size, it's not enough imo.

[jjrock]

i wouldn't run the winny alone. You may lean up a bit but it
wont be anything fantastic. You could also rip a tendon by running
winny alone. You should almost always run something with it. I'd
save your money, buy some test, then maybe the last 5 weeks of
your cycle you could throw some winny in there ed.

[cathex]

Hey buddy, roids an't cheap these days, so I if were you I'd save that stuff for another day when you can afford something to complement it, like test. Just keep training hard and save it for later.

[chris587]

I agree with all the others.

Another reason to not do it is b/c you only have enough for 20 days which makes it a pointless cycle IMO.

[jocko]

winny will help cut u up thats it

[DoiMiNioN]

I dont know about it helping cutting you up.. BUT DONT DO IT. this is from bb.com. Author is DFlood

A few things to count on when running Winstrol alone...
this is for all the "spring breaker esque" posts ive seen recently...i thought id share some songs of experience. this applies to any 6 week winstrol "cycle" at 50mg ED.

1. HPTA shutdown. and relatively quickly. winstrol is NOT a "lightly suppressive" compound. i experienced suppression (i.e. testacles aching, erections that would die after about 5 seconds of innattentaviness) after about 5 days @ 50 mg. This makes PCT with nolva or clomid a must, and i would even suggest a shot of HCG every five days or so to ensure that testicles remain large and happy.

2. Achy joints. this could range from slight aching while lifting in the knees and elbows to complete and utter agony during the slightest movement. i began to feel creaky after about 2.5-3 weeks. i know that many many bros on this board, including BLT have experienced BAD joint pain from winny.

3. Some breakout action. perhaps a few little red pimples on your upper back, maybe the worst acne flair up of your life.

4. The hairloss issue. I have read alot of winstrol "drug profiles". some of them have labeled winstrol as a lightly androgenic, low sides drug. others have called it a highly androgenic drug that can influence high BP, acne, and aggravate hairloss. so i am inclined to base my attitude on my experience and the experiences of others.
That said, many many users claim to experience hairloss on winstrol. personally, i noticed more accumulation of hair in the drain after showering. so if you take a look at your family's elder males, and see baldness, it would be wise to choose another compound if you worry about hairloss.

5. A ****ty lipid profile post cycle. Winstrol has been known to be one of the most destructive drugs of "good cholestrol", while also elevating bad cholesterol. Both niacin and garlic extract should be used during and after winstrol use. i would suggest non flush niacin. they can help rectify HDL/LDL values...

6. 3-7 pounds of muscle, if you respond well, have an excellent diet, and train hard. Also, increased hardness and vascularity if your bf% is already low.

IMO, the gains from running a winny only cycle seem to be miniscule in comparison to the *possible* side effects. if you are interested in running a single compound in order to stave off catabolism, and perhaps add some strength and a few lean pounds, i would choose anavar over winstrol everytime. Although it is more expensive, i have never seen a case of anavar aggravating acne or hairloss, although it will still suppress the HPTA. that should not be a large worry though with proper pct.

*NOTE* i would suggest a 10 week cycle of test only @ 400mg a week over either of these cycles.....with proper ancillaries, it is a lower risk, higher yield compound.

Dflood.....just my .02

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by DoiMiNioN

I dont know about it helping cutting you up.. BUT DONT DO IT. this is from bb.com. Author is DFlood

A few things to count on when running Winstrol alone...
this is for all the "spring breaker esque" posts ive seen recently...i thought id share some songs of experience. this applies to any 6 week winstrol "cycle" at 50mg ED.

1. HPTA shutdown. and relatively quickly. winstrol is NOT a "lightly suppressive" compound. i experienced suppression (i.e. testacles aching, erections that would die after about 5 seconds of innattentaviness) after about 5 days @ 50 mg. This makes PCT with nolva or clomid a must, and i would even suggest a shot of HCG every five days or so to ensure that testicles remain large and happy.

2. Achy joints. this could range from slight aching while lifting in the knees and elbows to complete and utter agony during the slightest movement. i began to feel creaky after about 2.5-3 weeks. i know that many many bros on this board, including BLT have experienced BAD joint pain from winny.

3. Some breakout action. perhaps a few little red pimples on your upper back, maybe the worst acne flair up of your life.

4. The hairloss issue. I have read alot of winstrol "drug profiles". some of them have labeled winstrol as a lightly androgenic, low sides drug. others have called it a highly androgenic drug that can influence high BP, acne, and aggravate hairloss. so i am inclined to base my attitude on my experience and the experiences of others.
That said, many many users claim to experience hairloss on winstrol. personally, i noticed more accumulation of hair in the drain after showering. so if you take a look at your family's elder males, and see baldness, it would be wise to choose another compound if you worry about hairloss.

5. A ****ty lipid profile post cycle. Winstrol has been known to be one of the most destructive drugs of "good cholestrol", while also elevating bad cholesterol. Both niacin and garlic extract should be used during and after winstrol use. i would suggest non flush niacin. they can help rectify HDL/LDL values...

6. 3-7 pounds of muscle, if you respond well, have an excellent diet, and train hard. Also, increased hardness and vascularity if your bf% is already low.

IMO, the gains from running a winny only cycle seem to be miniscule in comparison to the *possible* side effects. if you are interested in running a single compound in order to stave off catabolism, and perhaps add some strength and a few lean pounds, i would choose anavar over winstrol everytime. Although it is more expensive, i have never seen a case of anavar aggravating acne or hairloss, although it will still suppress the HPTA. that should not be a large worry though with proper pct.

*NOTE* i would suggest a 10 week cycle of test only @ 400mg a week over either of these cycles.....with proper ancillaries, it is a lower risk, higher yield compound.

Dflood.....just my .02

no way bro, but if you do I would get some WD40 because your going be sqeeking like metal on metal