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Hello. This is my first post on here.
Stats: 6'1'', 260lbs, 25%BF.

Before I start my first cycle I plan to get down to around the 230 range. I currently do cardio 6 days a week, lift 5 days a week, and my diet has been on point for a couple weeks now. I'm not gonna start my cycle until I get down to around 230.

I have 5 weeks of 50mg winstrol tabs and Im getting 100 clen tabs at 40mcg. My goal is to just purely loose body fat. Ive always been a big muscular guy but have a lot of extra fat. My plan was to do 1 winny tab ED and clen ED workin up to 100mcg's. Also to keep my test level up I will do 1 shot of test a week at 250mg.

How much can I expect to achieve as far as the loosing BF when I get down to 230?
Also I have a pct in mind. Would nolvadex be okay? Or would clomid be better? I hope this stack will give me good BF results. Not to worried about the strength aspect because Im already happy with where I am in strength.

Let me know what you think and suggestions are always welcome!

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#1 Testosterone propionate injected once a week? That won't work at all. Way too much fluctuation to be even slightly beneficial.
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Okay how much would u advise me takin? Im just doin it to keep my test levels up while on the winstrol.
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Okay how much would u advise me takin? Im just doin it to keep my test levels up while on the winstrol.
Use it at 50-100mgs eod. You want to stay anabolic as possible while dieting to ensure that the majority of your weight loss is from fat and not a combo of fat and muscle
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Alright I will do my test EOD then. I appreciate the advice bigbench. What do u think of my cycle as far as its effectiveness in burning fat?
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How much do you want to weigh? And what do you want your body fat to be? What sort of time line did you plan on doing this in?

How long did you plan on running with your cycle? Did you have access to more gear?
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TrainHard2: After I get down to 230 in a few months, I want to be in the 215 range. I hope with the winny,clen and test that I will be able to get to that weight. I want my BF to around 15% or so. My time line is to condition, lift, and diet for the next 4 months and hopefully be near the 230 range. After I get to that I plan on doing 5 weeks of winny tabs ED, clen ED starting at 40mcg working up to 100mcg, and 100 mg shot of test EOD. And yes I have access to more gear.

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How much weight have you dropped without using drugs? Don't try to take an easy way out my friend. To get the most useful help go ahead and post your diet and let us critique that instead.
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Default Re: winny,clen,test prop cycle. Need some advice!

Like I said im at 260 right now and plan to get to 230 within the next 4 months or so, Im not gonna start my cycle until I get to 230 so Im not tryin to take the easy way out. My diet now is very strict so Im not worried about it. Just want some good feedback for when I start my cycle in a couple months.
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Default Re: winny,clen,test prop cycle. Need some advice!

Getbig22...Honestly IMO I'd prefer if you could post your diet. It could help me help you better, but it really sounds like you are set on using gear reguardless of anyones opinion. Diet is key, and if I know everything that goes in, I can critique and improve on what might be wrong.

Honestly you really don't need aas to acheive your goal, with the proper training and diet you could drop down to 215 in 4-5 months easy. Shoot my cousin lost 205 lbs in a year just exercising and eating correctly. He didn't even use clen, he did take in tons of caffeine though.

But if I were you, since your heart is set on using winny, clen and test, i'd like to see you get to the 215 range first, and have your body be in really good condition athletic wise before running your cycle. I'd use clen for a bit to help cut the fat till you reach 215. Then use the test, winny, and clen to cut up a bit more, or just drop a few more %'s. The test and winny isn't going to help you just lose TONS of weight like you think, it will just cut you up a bit more from where you were at.

Also to be the body weight of 215, you'd need to take in 2500 calories a day, or a bit less.

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