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I posted this on another board but only got 4 responses that contradict each other, just like the info when i do a search does. I wanted to cut. I have the option of 100amps of test E and 70 winny amps, or 100 test E and 200ius or 300ius of HGH. Which of these cycles would cut most? I'm 220 with about 15% bf. I'd like to get to bout 8%. I dont wanna lose my size though. I know diet is key but i would like to know which of these two cycles in particular would be best for overall cutting without worrying about restricting calories as much. I get contradicting info bout HGH, I'm sure it has great benefits, but has anyone on here actually used it and seen what types of results after so many IU'S? I see people tell you its a waste but then they say they hadnt tried it. Also, the same with winny. I just want to know whats best from people who have used each or know someone who has. Which of these can obtain my goal the best? Thanks guys
I dont wanna look like mr olympia, i just wanna cut some major fat while building some better muscle quality with some higher energy levels that come with the benefits of HGH. I'm about 15% bf, i'd like to get to about 8%, thats all. I'd like to stay around 225 also, i'm only 5'8. I thought if you used 200iu's of HGH that it would have to benefit you somewhat rather than not taking any at all. Some people say its a waste if its not 6 months but i was thinking of 50 days at 4iu's a day or 60 days ramping up to 4iu's daily. I can add another 100ius if needed but i didnt wanna abuse the stuff. Would this benefit me towards my goal or be a waste. I've tried the winny before and i look cut for a while but as soon as i'm off i'm bloated again and its not worth it, i want the fat off and not the water sucked outta me. I think you guys know what i'm saying. If i did straight test cycle, how big a dose would i need to get the desired results and how much cardio do you recommend on that cycle. I just read that HGH burns fat mainly, and thats what i want, but if i can get that fat burning with doses of test E and some cardio for two months, i'd do that instead. I hope you guys understand my dilemma. I'm asking bc i have no experience with HGH, and i was skinny before and i now have the bulk up mentality that makes me wanna eat eat eat and i'm not cut anymore, but now that i have the size, i cant find a way to reprogram myself to cut up into quality muscle. I always look flat when i cardio. Let me know. Thanks guys, i appreciate the advice.
I posted this on another board but only got 4 responses that contradict each other, just like the info when i do a search does. I wanted to cut. I have the option of 100amps of test E and 70 winny amps, or 100 test E and 200ius or 300ius of HGH. Which of these cycles would cut most? I'm 220 with about 15% bf. I'd like to get to bout 8%. I dont wanna lose my size though. I know diet is key but i would like to know which of these two cycles in particular would be best for overall cutting without worrying about restricting calories as much. I get contradicting info bout HGH, I'm sure it has great benefits, but has anyone on here actually used it and seen what types of results after so many IU'S? I see people tell you its a waste but then they say they hadnt tried it. Also, the same with winny. I just want to know whats best from people who have used each or know someone who has. Which of these can obtain my goal the best? Thanks guys
Neither. Maintaining muscle mass maybe. But you have to cut by your diet and ECA's,clen,dnp etc.
You are putting too much emphasis on the drugs. A cutting cycle is just a low dose of aas (non aroma would be best) that allows you to cut calories and carbs back while doing lots of cardio and even use Clen /T3 with or an ECA stack and not loose muscle with the fat. If you think they are going to swap out (fat for muscle) your going to be disappointed. Bulk first the cut or cut then bulk.
I have clen, winny, and t3 onhand also. I'm saying which cycle cuts most,meaning i dont think winny does anything to actual bodyfat, but HGH burns strictly bodyfat for energy. The clen gave me the shakes worst than any eca i've ever taken with only two tabs a day at 20mcg tabs for two weeks along with test. I get a good bit of cardio by playing basketball 4 days a week along with lifting 4 days weekly. My diet does suck though. I get alot of protein but also alot of crappy foods too. My upper body and legs are solid, i'm very soft in the midsection, i can see my top two abs, but after that there is a tube. I think it may be straight miller lite, if only i could drain that outta there. I dont have to bulk right now, i'd rather cut down the gut and start the bulk back up while i'm leaner. Whats the best way to go about this. Thanks guys, i appreciate it. I'm just not familiar with HGH use, i've read about it but I'd like to know about people who had used. Just want steered in the right direction. Thanks again.
Well in that case I wouldn't take any hormones. Cuz you said nothing about maintaining muscle or gaining muscle, you said you just want to cut. And no hormone burns fat for energy. So if you want to maintain muscle while cutting go with a low dose of test and dnp,clen,eca and great diet. You said your diet sucks, well then your cutting is going to suck no matter how much stuff you put into your body.
I have clen, winny, and t3 onhand also. I'm saying which cycle cuts most,meaning i dont think winny does anything to actual bodyfat, but HGH burns strictly bodyfat for energy. The clen gave me the shakes worst than any eca i've ever taken with only two tabs a day at 20mcg tabs for two weeks along with test. I get a good bit of cardio by playing basketball 4 days a week along with lifting 4 days weekly. My diet does suck though. I get alot of protein but also alot of crappy foods too. My upper body and legs are solid, i'm very soft in the midsection, i can see my top two abs, but after that there is a tube. I think it may be straight miller lite, if only i could drain that outta there. I dont have to bulk right now, i'd rather cut down the gut and start the bulk back up while i'm leaner. Whats the best way to go about this. Thanks guys, i appreciate it. I'm just not familiar with HGH use, i've read about it but I'd like to know about people who had used. Just want steered in the right direction. Thanks again.
HGH is too expensive to just use as a fat burner. Winny will kill your joints but some can use it effectively. You can lower the Clen dosage until you are comfortable. A low dose of Test P would be ideal to maintain muscle while you cut the cals and carbs back. Ever considered DNP? Some like it some don't. It involves a lot of research before using that product.
with the drugs that you have access to I would recommend going with the 300ius of gh at 3ius. I would also use the t3 and clen and cycle off with eca when not on the clen. But you can take all of the drugs in the world and if your diet is not in check and you are not doing cardio you will not see any results.
But back to your questions, gh will yield greater fat burning and muscle retaining effects while dieting.
ok. I guess if your gonna do it anyway and money is no issue and that's all you have to pick from I would do hgh and low test. Personally a low dose of test is great like even prop.
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