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I agree he probably got crap and did not come off it right as well. I like the winstrol and cyp cycle though.. Great choice especially for first time user
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@peanutbutter. so if i work out hard continuously even once the cycle is done, theres low risk of getting fat? and when you say doesn't know how to use it, are you talking about doesn't know how to cycle it or just doesn't know which kind of gear to use? and mine is manufactured by balkan pharmaceuticals, cypionate.
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also, is there goign to be a problem with coming off this cycle? or do i not have to worry about losing my nuts. im only planning on doing a 7 wk cycle with cypionate and winstrol. am i giong to have to worry about coming off?
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@peanutbutter. so if i work out hard continuously even once the cycle is done, theres low risk of getting fat? and when you say doesn't know how to use it, are you talking about doesn't know how to cycle it or just doesn't know which kind of gear to use? and mine is manufactured by balkan pharmaceuticals, cypionate.
balkan is GTG

yes this cycle will shut you down-and winny is very bad on the joints-i would consider anavar instead-if you can afford it.
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also, is there goign to be a problem with coming off this cycle? or do i not have to worry about losing my nuts. im only planning on doing a 7 wk cycle with cypionate and winstrol. am i giong to have to worry about coming off?
7 weeks is not long enough to run cyp-it needs to be ran at least 10- and 12 would be better

you need to plan a proper PCT-and i would say you need to do some more research before starting-you dont know enough yet.
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what do you suggest as a pct? and how come cyp needs to be a 10-12 wk cycle?
also, is there any places you can suggest for information? it seems like ive been on every damn forum online lol. thanks for your help.....
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you have 3 choices for PCT

clomid 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks

nolva 40/40/20/20

some run both-although i think it is overkill

Cypionate like Enanthate are long esters-it will take 4-6 weeks before you even feel the effects. the benefit to this is you only have to shoot it 2 times a week. these are the best choices for a first cycle IMO. you will always need a test base in any cycle that you do. if you take a steroid that suppresses HPTA and you dont give your body at least normal levels of exogenous test-you could have problems.

PCT starts 2 weeks after last injection of the testosterone cypionate or enanthate.

this is how i would do test cyp winny.

1-12 testosterone 500 mg a week
9-14 winny 50mg ED (if you have injectable-shoot one day and take orally the next)
15-18 PCT

although-if i could switch the winny with var-i would.

there is a new product out called a SARM (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator) it is legal through research company. i have only read about it but it is suppose to be really good for joint pain-and reparation. look in to this-or something to help with joints on the winny.

your PCT products can also be obtained through research company-and you should know what an aromatose inhibitor is-just in case you run in to estrogen complications. PM me if you need research materials.

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oh and get some milk thistle or Liv-52 to help clear toxins from liver while on the winny.
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milk tistle is great..also liv 52, or essential forte caps if you can get it
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you have 3 choices for PCT

clomid 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks

nolva 40/40/20/20

some run both-although i think it is overkill

Cypionate like Enanthate are long esters-it will take 4-6 weeks before you even feel the effects. the benefit to this is you only have to shoot it 2 times a week. these are the best choices for a first cycle IMO. you will always need a test base in any cycle that you do. if you take a steroid that suppresses HPTA and you dont give your body at least normal levels of exogenous test-you could have problems.

PCT starts 2 weeks after last injection of the testosterone cypionate or enanthate.

this is how i would do test cyp winny.

1-12 testosterone 500 mg a week
9-14 winny 50mg ED (if you have injectable-shoot one day and take orally the next)
15-18 PCT

although-if i could switch the winny with var-i would.

there is a new product out called a SARM (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator) it is legal through research company. i have only read about it but it is suppose to be really good for joint pain-and reparation. look in to this-or something to help with joints on the winny.

your PCT products can also be obtained through research company-and you should know what an aromatose inhibitor is-just in case you run in to estrogen complications. PM me if you need research materials.
There you have it flyguy. Newbie recommendation is very good. I would suggest that you learn alot more. You should really read the drug profiles to understand more and read through peoples posts on cycles.

i'm not trying to lump you into a group, but too often people seek answers to questions, which is fine, but without understanding the interrelation of how different compounds work, which is unfortunate because they aren't really learning what is happening to their body and are unable to respond to unexpected or unusual circumstances that may develop. I suggest reading more, perhaps even buy a book, though you can find all the information you need in forums.
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