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Question winstrol/testosterone cycle

hey im a first time gear user, just trying to find my way around all the hype and bs associated with usage. i see alot of very bulky users with no definition, and i am scared that if i use it, thats how i will look.
i got my hands on some pharmacy grade test and winstrol tabs, and would like to know if that is a good cycle to use for my first time. i dont' want to get very big, (im currently 5'10, 22 yrs old, between 173-175 lbs and pretty defined, also very healthy and my diet is about 80%) but i would like to come off my cycle at around 185-190 and still be cut.
is this a good start for me? or should i scrap the juice and just stick to reg. diet and exercise?
also, is it true that once your cycle is done that you lose all the muscle mass that you have gained? or is that just for the lazies that stop working out as hard once they get big?

any feedback on this situation would be great and much appreciated.
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is it true that once your cycle is done that you lose all the muscle mass that you have gained?thx
You will eventually revert back to your natural state it my take as long as one year.
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its a good cycle. I recently started HRT and had test and winstrol prescribed for me. The results have been great. Reducing BF was my goal and though I am not near my desired degree of definition, the results have been quite noticeable for the time of use.

You likely do not need to worry about getting the bulky bloated non-definition look, unless your use a really high level of test. The winstrol keeps water retention levels low, of course I've found daily allergy pills taken nightly b4 bed act as a good diuretic too. In any event you should be good.

The bulky look is possible but unlikely with test. watch your diet and have some A-dex on hand for unwanted sides (which also helps reduce water retention in my opinion, albeit slight). The bloated look is typical for users of Deca, Dbol, and those types.
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winstrol+testo is good cycle...try to add some trenbolone..with good diet you can burn all fats.
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hey im a first time gear user, just trying to find my way around all the hype and bs associated with usage. i see alot of very bulky users with no definition, and i am scared that if i use it, thats how i will look.
i got my hands on some pharmacy grade test and winstrol tabs, and would like to know if that is a good cycle to use for my first time. i dont' want to get very big, (im currently 5'10, 22 yrs old, between 173-175 lbs and pretty defined, also very healthy and my diet is about 80%) but i would like to come off my cycle at around 185-190 and still be cut.
is this a good start for me? or should i scrap the juice and just stick to reg. diet and exercise?
also, is it true that once your cycle is done that you lose all the muscle mass that you have gained? or is that just for the lazies that stop working out as hard once they get big?

any feedback on this situation would be great and much appreciated.
thx
What kind of Test did you get? Prop, Cyp, Susp...what? Just curious. Most Tests will give you

some "bloat" , good ol' water retention. If you choose Winny for the end of cycle it should dry

you up, stay away from Tren as a first timer...just sayin.
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If you want to be 10 lbs bigger but leaner just bulk up 30 lbs bigger then cut down 20 lbs..Presto..you have reached your goal.You could do this with or without steroids...with steroids it would work much faster..
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i dont like prop for 1st time users-it stings a lil and you have to shoot EOD.

enanthate-cyp-sustanon is much better choice.

if you run AI you will not get much water retention.
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i got cypionate.
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and when you say revert back to natural state, does that mean that i will be 175 pounds again? ive got a buddy who has done lots of juice, and he weighs less that me naturally, but he always looks pudgy because of the juice that he did before. he just can't lose all the extra skin or w/e it is.
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he got crap gear and he dont know how to use it,etc
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