Winter Cycle .. advise?

[Need2BBIG]

I am 31 years old (163 Lbs, 6Ft , waist 32'', 13% body fat)

I am starting a new bulking cycle (target 180 Lbs) next week like :

week 1-14 500 mg sustanon
week 1-12 400 mg primobplan depot OR 400 mg Deca
week 1-4 30 mg dianabol Ed
week 1-14 20 mg Nolvadex Ed
200 mg B6

I also posses Protien, creatine,glutamine & multi.

What i need to know;

1. I have read that primo is better than Dec (side effects wise) but can i reach a good results with it (even a little less than deca) and is 300 md weekly good enough?

I can get HCG & clomid, which is the best? or maybe somone can recommend a good PCT considering that i can only get (nolva,clomid,HCG)

[youngBuilder]

Ok well lets put aside the fact that people here would definitely suggest your too light to be using AAS. It might help to post your diet and training history.

1. -Your target weight of 180, which is 17 lbs more than oyu are now could be achieved with just your sustanon alone. ACTUALLY, IT CAN BE REACHED NATURALLY WITHOUT ANY AAS. But if you insist, then I dont think you really need the dbols, seeing as how sustanon contains prop (a fast acting ester) but you are free to do as you please. Primo at 400 mgs is effective and a good addition minus the suppresive issues deca might induce, as well as any estro-related sides. But as it has been stated before, lets hope it is real primo.

-14 weeks is a bit long for a beginner. You could cut it down to 12 with no prob. If you were to run deca, i would cut it sooner than you list it. ALways run the test for several weeks longer than the deca, ALWAYS.

-Now with your PCT. HCG would definitely be a good addition to keep your balls from shrinking and to make you recover a lot faster. DO a search on hwo to use it. Some people like to use it throughout their cycle to "keep the horse in the barn" or so to speak (which i would tend to agree with). Clomid and/or nolva for pct is obviously a must, which leads me to believe...

...if you dont already know how to plan your pct, you probably should research a little more before trying anything. Not to mention train, and eat more before you do any cycle. 160 is just too small. You shouldnt have a problem reaching your goals naturally.

[Need2BBIG]

Thnx Young builder for your help.

It was really a good guide, i have read alot for more than 6 months about AAS.But it is also good to know others opinions too.

this is not my first cycle, i finished my last cycle(3rd) in August.

Usually i do 2 cycles per year (summer/winter) but i have been off AAS for 3 years.

one last clarification (just to be sure) concerning the PCT, i agrre with the idea of HCG during the cycle so should i do it like:

5000 IU every 10 days or do 5000 IU for two weeks starting immediatly after the last injection?

Clomid therapy will start 2 weeks after the last injection (week 16/17/18)

What do u think?
N.B I have a new girfriend

[Deacon]

I would try creatine, an NO product and a lot of calories before going with gear bro - I bet you are not eating enough to grow right now