WTF is wrong with this FINA?

[DieHuge]

There is dark stuff that has settled out and is obviously heavier than the oil. Is this fina or is it binders that made it through the coffee filter and .45 Whatman? I filtered the contents twice but the dark stuff will not leave. Should I just shake it up and inject it into my cattle or should I avoid the dark stuff?

[chris gordon]

hmmm how did you do the conversion? with a kit or just with BA and BB? what does it do if you shake it really well? how long till it drops out?

if it was fillers and stuff you wouldnt be able to see thru it...it looks like the dark stuff is clear right?

[DieHuge]

Originally Posted by chris gordon

hmmm how did you do the conversion? with a kit or just with BA and BB? what does it do if you shake it really well? how long till it drops out?

if it was fillers and stuff you wouldnt be able to see thru it...it looks like the dark stuff is clear right?

Yeah it is clear and I can see through it. If I shake it up it settles out after 2-3 minutes. I did the normal coffee filter conversion with the Magic solution. Never had this problem before. Used 20 mls of magic solution 10g of Fina, and abouy 85ccs of oil.

[Deacon]

I would hold it under hot tap water and see if that stuff dissolves back into the oil - may take several minutes - if it does not I would throw that shit away and not use it

[MANWHORE]

Maybe just fell out of solution .. maybe you added too little of one thing or too much of another .. I think you can fix it,if you ask around .. I would even go as far as to say,you can probably just shake it and draw while mixed ... I've never done it,so ask around

[streetracer]

Originally Posted by chris gordon

hmmm how did you do the conversion? with a kit or just with BA and BB? what does it do if you shake it really well? how long till it drops out?

if it was fillers and stuff you wouldnt be able to see thru it...it looks like the dark stuff is clear right?

I have not done a lot of Tren from Fina but I have made quite a bit for buddies. I have experimented with different potencies and kits and I have never seen seperation like that even at 175mg per ml. When converting at a high mg per mil I had issues with sediment but never that bad. You are having some sort of a binding / dissolving issue. I never have to filter more than twice and it is always a dark goldish to brown color.

I would toss it and start over.

[DieHuge]

What's the worst case scenario if I just shake the shit up and shoot it. It's been through a filter twice so all the glues and binders should be out.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by DieHuge

What's the worst case scenario if I just shake the shit up and shoot it. It's been through a filter twice so all the glues and binders should be out.

No NO i don't want to be responsible. .. If he has made it himself and says to throw away,i'd either get more opinions or throw it away ... It just looks like my D-bol that fell out of the solution one time,which is why i said to just mix and draw

[DieHuge]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

No NO i don't want to be responsible. .. If he has made it himself and says to throw away,i'd either get more opinions or throw it away ... It just looks like my D-bol that fell out of the solution one time,which is why i said to just mix and draw

Did your Dbol work OK (since it fell out of the solution) once you shook it up? I have no intentions of tossing the shit. I'll either draw from the top (hopefully there is enough tren in the solution) or shake it up and shoot. I'm leaning toward shaking it up. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.

[Bigkarch]

normal bro......run it over hot water and let it disolve..just inject the portion that does disolve..in other words dont put the needle to the bottom and withdraw...I have a batch the same way.....I just run it over hot water and withdraw half way in the bottle....the bottom gunk does not disentegrate..

[Mr. Shoulders]

I just made some and the whole batch came out a reddish brown rather than a clear gold...I used 3grams of pellets to try and make 50ml but ended up having to add more oil...Friggin weird the way it looks different than all my other batches...The only thing I really did differently was let it sit in solution for an extra day to disolve really well and I think I used more BA

[chris gordon]

i am thinking that somehow the dark stuff at the bottom is tren not staying solute...tren is weird when you use pellets....try this turn the bottle upside down...let the dark stuff settle at the TOP of the vial...then use a syring and withdraw 1/2 cc....then squirt it on a plate or something....wait for it to evaporate...and see if you have crystals.....anyway im thiniing that you made some more solvent and to heat the stuff up really well


if not just draw and shoot the clear part i guess

[bigbench]

thats what i was going to say. add a little more solvent also put it in some VERY hot water for abou thirty minutes or longer. make sure to put an 18 gauge needle through the stopper so that preasure wont build up.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by bigbench

thats what i was going to say. add a little more solvent also put it in some VERY hot water for abou thirty minutes or longer. make sure to put an 18 gauge needle through the stopper so that preasure wont build up.

I wasn't sure what you would add to it to fix the problem,since i've never done this myself. that's basically what i was saying when i said you probably added to little or too much of one something. ..

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by DieHuge

Did your Dbol work OK (since it fell out of the solution) once you shook it up? I have no intentions of tossing the shit. I'll either draw from the top (hopefully there is enough tren in the solution) or shake it up and shoot. I'm leaning toward shaking it up. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.

Well it was some dbol and adrol for a friend and my friend didn't know any better. What he did was just draw from the top without shaking and he wasn't see any results after weeks. I told him my source has to have good stuff,so i emailed my source. He said he did notice that his other orals fell out of solution too and said he would send more. I told him that my friend would just shake and draw. He said that would be fine. I basically looked at it as a suspension now that it was out of solution .. Kind of like how water base Winny comes. So what my friend basically did was draw out liquid that didn't have any AAS in it,so i told him now instead of having 50mg/ml he might have 100mg/ml. I told him to just watch his dose and start lower ... the Adrol was the one he did that with so when he started the Dbol,he shook it before drawing. It worked just fine but like i said,i don't know how injects work.