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Hi there guys,
I'm gonna be hitting my next cycle in 1 or 2 weeks and its gonna be another bulker.
Originally I thought I'd use some ephedra for energy on gym days because my schedule is a bit crazy for the next few months, but I thought recently that I'd use it for two-three weeks to see how it affects me before my cycle.
Last week I eased myself in by taking it EOD (on gym days) once before gym, and today I tried it twice a day, with a six hour gap in between. I took my blood pressure today 3 hours after the second dose and it came up as 140/95.

Its part of an ECA stack (30mg ephedra, 300mg caffeine)

Do you guys reckon with this high diastolic I should quit it entirely, or just cut it back down to EOD for energy while I'm on cycle and check my blood pressure again?
Bought some herbs from pharmacy for blood pressure and gonna start them tonight...

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Hi there guys,
I'm gonna be hitting my next cycle in 1 or 2 weeks and its gonna be another bulker.
Originally I thought I'd use some ephedra for energy on gym days because my schedule is a bit crazy for the next few months, but I thought recently that I'd use it for two-three weeks to see how it affects me before my cycle.
Last week I eased myself in by taking it EOD (on gym days) once before gym, and today I tried it twice a day, with a six hour gap in between. I took my blood pressure today 3 hours after the second dose and it came up as 140/95.

Its part of an ECA stack (30mg ephedra, 300mg caffeine)

Do you guys reckon with this high diastolic I should quit it entirely, or just cut it back down to EOD for energy while I'm on cycle and check my blood pressure again?
Bought some herbs from pharmacy for blood pressure and gonna start them tonight...

Thanks guys,
Well I would try lowering the dosage first, if you can't keep it consistantly under 140/90 then I would eventually quit. You don't want High bp and be lifting hard at the same time, not a good combo.
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Thanks,
Would you recommend just using EOD like previously planned, or perhaps seeing what it does ED at once a day in both cases? (I know this is something I should decide myself)
Also worried bout using test and ephedra together cause my bp does rise a little when on cycle
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well if it's just for energy ... I don't know?? I wouldn't use things for fake energy. I just don't beleive in it. For fat loss maybe, but if your bp is too high and it's not for a REAL reason then just drop it. But if you can get your bp under control by trying to use hawthorne berry (vasodilator) then take the eca when ever you feel like it.
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Right, it is just something I'm just really throwing in with my usual styled cycle... Was curious to see if it would effect bf, thats why pumped up dose, but its not that important as I will be bulking.

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I'll fiddle with the doage and see if I can get my bp under 90,
I'll give it a week of fiddling...

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yup, just keep an eye on it.
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Have you considered taking the ephedrine HCI. It only takes 25mgs and a lot cheaper. The natural you are talking about is probably a lot smoother with less sides, but the HCL is quite effective. I think it is a pretty common stack with caffine. SHould be ok to take one or two a day. I would not consider adding any yohimbe to that. That Got nasty for me once before I new just how f"ing strong yohimbe can be. I believe there are some writings out there on the severtiy of the danger in stacking yohimbe with coffee and ephedrine hcl.
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Hi there guys,
I'm gonna be hitting my next cycle in 1 or 2 weeks and its gonna be another bulker.
Originally I thought I'd use some ephedra for energy on gym days because my schedule is a bit crazy for the next few months, but I thought recently that I'd use it for two-three weeks to see how it affects me before my cycle.
Last week I eased myself in by taking it EOD (on gym days) once before gym, and today I tried it twice a day, with a six hour gap in between. I took my blood pressure today 3 hours after the second dose and it came up as 140/95.

Its part of an ECA stack (30mg ephedra, 300mg caffeine)

Do you guys reckon with this high diastolic I should quit it entirely, or just cut it back down to EOD for energy while I'm on cycle and check my blood pressure again?
Bought some herbs from pharmacy for blood pressure and gonna start them tonight...

Thanks guys,
dosage way to high.
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When I take ephedrine for fat loss, after just a few days I stop getting the boost of energy that I had at first. If you just use it for energy and take it every day, you will find yourself needing more and more. If energy is all your interested in, just take it on the days you feel you need it. If you can go without it, go without it. Eventually, the ephedrine won't help and you will need to be in the habit of making yourself go no matter what. That's what separates the die hards from the part timers

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Hey,

When's the best time monitor my bp?
Just after taking ephedra but before gym
Just after gym
Several hours after gym toward the end of the ephedra half-life (I think bout 4 hours)
After that

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P.S. They come in 30mg, and they're UG so I don't think I can divide dosage up by breaking them...
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