5x5 Question

[juicecravin]

I have a question about this:

"For more advanced lifters, he advocated a warmup, then 5 sets of 5 with a set weight. For example, the same athlete used in the other example may do 135 for 5, 185 for 5, 225 for 3, 275 for 2, 315 for 1, then 350 for 5 sets of 5. When successfull with all 25 reps at 350lbs, bump the weight up the next workout by 5 or 10lbs."

does this mean do 1 set of the (5,3,2,1) reps with the first 4 weights, and then 5 sets of 5 with your heaviest weight, or 5 sets of the said number of reps for all???

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by juicecravin

I have a question about this:

"For more advanced lifters, he advocated a warmup, then 5 sets of 5 with a set weight. For example, the same athlete used in the other example may do 135 for 5, 185 for 5, 225 for 3, 275 for 2, 315 for 1, then 350 for 5 sets of 5. When successfull with all 25 reps at 350lbs, bump the weight up the next workout by 5 or 10lbs."

does this mean do 1 set of the (5,3,2,1) reps with the first 4 weights, and then 5 sets of 5 with your heaviest weight, or 5 sets of the said number of reps for all???

Huh? I don't understand your question. The description is pretty self explanatory.

[juicecravin]

ok, with the given weight as an example, do you do 5 sets of 135x5, followed by 5 sets of 185x5, 5 sets of 225x3, etc. or do you do one set of 135x5, 1 of 185x5, 1 of 225x3, etc. and then 5 sets of 350x5?

[gymrat]

Originally Posted by juicecravin

ok, with the given weight as an example, do you do 5 sets of 135x5, followed by 5 sets of 185x5, 5 sets of 225x3, etc. or do you do one set of 135x5, 1 of 185x5, 1 of 225x3, etc. and then 5 sets of 350x5?

it means to do one set of each of the warmup weights (135, 185, 225, etc) and then do 5 sets of 350 for 5

[juicecravin]

Originally Posted by gymrat

it means to do one set of each of the warmup weights (135, 185, 225, etc) and then do 5 sets of 350 for 5

thanks bro, ever use the system?

[crobar1]

This is just for strength right? It can't be for size/hpertrophy??

[kazman32]

I used this system when I was competing in powerlifting (before I started bodybuilding).It was an awesome for building strength in the 3 core lifts,and to answer your question I think it worked well for building thick dense muscles.

[buck]

It is good for strength size and thickness.

[bear6969]

Originally Posted by buck

It is good for strength size and thickness.

is this workout based on percentages or periodization?

[crobar1]

That looks likeit would be part of a periodized table in the pure strength phase. I wouldn't recommend more than 3 weeks there with an overload week and then on to Power/Strength sets of 3-4

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by crobar1

This is just for strength right? It can't be for size/hpertrophy??

As long as you are eating, then you will most definitely gain size. JohnSmith doesnt use this program if the athlete he is working with is near the top of their weight class because it does pack on the mass.

Bear, its periodized and not specifically based on any percentages.

For all the details, check out the "Tribute to JohnSmith" sticky.

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

As long as you are eating, then you will most definitely gain size. JohnSmith doesnt use this program if the athlete he is working with is near the top of their weight class because it does pack on the mass.

Bear, its periodized and not specifically based on any percentages.

For all the details, check out the "Tribute to JohnSmith" sticky.

i'm only 2 weeks into JS's 5x5.. well technically it's animalmass's tweaked 5x5. i'll let ya know what happens

[AnimalMass]

Sounds good. Also, Crobar, "power/strength" sets are a Western Linear Periodization issue. We have proven time and time again that Western periodization is inferior to Dual factor training (be it conjugate or non conjugate). So no need for "mass" phases, "power" phases, "explosion" phases, etc.

Matt