Anyone still does the clean n press?

[Desibaba]

Seems like a pretty good movement to me.Considering how many different muscles are incorporated when you do it.Its almost extinct unfortunately.I almost never see anyone in the gym doing it.And i train in a supposedly "hardcore" gym.Who here does em on a regular basis?

[Grizzly]

nevermind

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

There is actually one kid at my gym who does them. He's only about 17 and naturally a strong mother fucker. Other than that I never see them done.

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

Seems like a pretty good movement to me.Considering how many different muscles are incorporated when you do it.Its almost extinct unfortunately.I almost never see anyone in the gym doing it.And i train in a supposedly "hardcore" gym.Who here does em on a regular basis?

I just switched from my old, conservative style gym to the local worlds gym which is a lot closer to me and has better hours. I've noticed there are a lot of big guys in there but they all lift the same. No one squats, no one deal lifts. All they do is bench press, shoulder press, arm curls, tricept pushdowns and hammer stregth machines.

[Phreezer]

welcome to the general masses workout routine... (be sure to thank Muscle and fitness)

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by GeaR_and_SauCe

I just switched from my old, conservative style gym to the local worlds gym which is a lot closer to me and has better hours. I've noticed there are a lot of big guys in there but they all lift the same. No one squats, no one deal lifts. All they do is bench press, shoulder press, arm curls, tricept pushdowns and hammer stregth machines.

I used to wonder what is wrong with these people but now I just think of it as well f--- them, the less they know the quicker i catch up to the juiced bastards.. ya know damn well they don't want to hear anything other than that what they're doing is right anyway so that's okay I'll take the upper hand.

[Madcow2]

Originally Posted by kenneth

ya know damn well they don't want to hear anything other than that what they're doing is right anyway

I often wonder about the psychology of the BBing/gym world. It's one of the few places where it seems nearly everyone is not interested in learning - they simply want an echo and in a lot of cases you get the guys who want to force their opinions on others (the unsolicited training advice from morons anomaly). It's like a propoganda machine with what little science there is being drastically misapplied. With so much technical focus on drugs and diet you'd think there'd be some really hungy folk for training knowledge buying up some of the excellent texts out there, but that certainly isn't what one finds.

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by Madcow2

I often wonder about the psychology of the BBing/gym world. It's one of the few places where it seems nearly everyone is not interested in learning - they simply want an echo and in a lot of cases you get the guys who want to force their opinions on others (the unsolicited training advice from morons anomaly). It's like a propoganda machine with what little science there is being drastically misapplied. With so much technical focus on drugs and diet you'd think there'd be some really hungy folk for training knowledge buying up some of the excellent texts out there, but that certainly isn't what one finds.

i completely agree. Guys at the gym who i know who are bigger than me assume that my training style is ass just because they're bigger and are always trying to push that supercompensation crap back on me. what they seem to forget is that they didn't get big from superior training knowledge, they were just good at getting their hands on some test. One guy who is always trying to tell me that the 5x5 i'm doing is a horrible routine is constantly going down to 170lbs in weight then juicing up to 190, stops juicing goes back down to 170, juices goes to 190, then the cycle just keeps going, i've seen him doing it 5 or 6 times already, yet he still doesn't realize that the only thing he's learned over the years is how to stick a pin, and has no real knowledge on how to train. (if he knew anything else he wouldn't lose all his gains every time).

Ken

[Grizzly]

I hope he's only 5'5"

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

nevermind

LOL i want to see that comment

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by kenneth

i completely agree. Guys at the gym who i know who are bigger than me assume that my training style is ass just because they're bigger and are always trying to push that supercompensation crap back on me. what they seem to forget is that they didn't get big from superior training knowledge, they were just good at getting their hands on some test. One guy who is always trying to tell me that the 5x5 i'm doing is a horrible routine is constantly going down to 170lbs in weight then juicing up to 190, stops juicing goes back down to 170, juices goes to 190, then the cycle just keeps going, i've seen him doing it 5 or 6 times already, yet he still doesn't realize that the only thing he's learned over the years is how to stick a pin, and has no real knowledge on how to train. (if he knew anything else he wouldn't lose all his gains every time).

Ken

Since he seems to believe that size and knowledge are directly proportional, inform him that the person who you got the 5x5 from is 350 pounds of muscle, has benched 500 raw in competition, with a 3 second pause on the chest, has squatted 900 pounds, and can do stiff legged deadlifts with 700 for reps.

Then tell him that all of those feats were accomplished without juice.

I think he'll shut the fuck up.

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Since he seems to believe that size and knowledge are directly proportional, inform him that the person who you got the 5x5 from is 350 pounds of muscle, has benched 500 raw in competition, with a 3 second pause on the chest, has squatted 900 pounds, and can do stiff legged deadlifts with 700 for reps.

Then tell him that all of those feats were accomplished without juice.

I think he'll shut the fuck up.

haha. yeah but everything i say to this dude his response is always "but pound for pound i'm the strongest guy in this gym" and for some reason he thinks this always most important but he quickly changes the subject the moment i mention a deadlift.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by kenneth

haha. yeah but everything i say to this dude his response is always "but pound for pound i'm the strongest guy in this gym" and for some reason he thinks this always most important but he quickly changes the subject the moment i mention a deadlift.

Tell him braincell for braincell he's also the most retarded.

[Desibaba]

If u look at it from a selfish point of view its a good thing.Because if they train like that they will remain smaller than you.That way they will stay far behind.

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

Originally Posted by kenneth

i completely agree. Guys at the gym who i know who are bigger than me assume that my training style is ass just because they're bigger and are always trying to push that supercompensation crap back on me. what they seem to forget is that they didn't get big from superior training knowledge, they were just good at getting their hands on some test. One guy who is always trying to tell me that the 5x5 i'm doing is a horrible routine is constantly going down to 170lbs in weight then juicing up to 190, stops juicing goes back down to 170, juices goes to 190, then the cycle just keeps going, i've seen him doing it 5 or 6 times already, yet he still doesn't realize that the only thing he's learned over the years is how to stick a pin, and has no real knowledge on how to train. (if he knew anything else he wouldn't lose all his gains every time).

Ken

This post describes so many people I know, that its sickening. Guys have been doing the same routine for years. They juice and get bigger, then it goes away, then they juice again and it comes back.

I came over to worlds to work out with a couple of these guys because I didn't want to work out by myself anymore. Funny thing is: I still workout by myself because these guy's routines are for babies. Then they have to balls to laugh at me for squatting 3x a week and doing standing millitary presses? I guess the joke is really on them. In my mind they are a bunch of pussies because the only reason they don't do squats and rows is because its easier to do curls and pushdowns. So, which one of us is really the pussy?