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Old 11-30-2004, 08:12 PM
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A video would really be helpful,because I'm still not sure if I'm doing them right. And Grizzly, I can't picture how your arms are bent at the bottom, straighten your legs a bit maybe?
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so the kid in the pic needs to drop his shoulders more at the start? Maybe I am doing them right.
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you drop your shoulders and round your upper back a bit at the start, but not the lower back. then in one explosive movement, you pull the shoulders back, "scrunch" or arch your upper back, and pull with your arms. it all happens at once, and the bar hits you hard in middle of the abs. this is not a slow exercise, its a fast and powerfull contraction of all the muscles of the back, which causes all 3 things to happen simultaneously. different people look a little differently, depending on their mobility in those parts of their body. most people can drop the shoulders and round out the upper back more than this kid. no matter how mobile you are in these areas, it is the EFFORT you make to do all 3 of these actions at once, and quickly and powerfully that makes it work really well.
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I just tested it out(imagination, I don't have a bar at work ) and maybe my arms aren't as bent as I thought the were. I would think that totally straight would be best, but maybe not.
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Ok John, I think that last bit nailed it. I Can't wait for my wrist to heal. At the moment I'm only doing squats.
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JS,

You running some kind of gay games thing there with the first picture? Is it just me or is that kid in his underwear? Didn't the Russian's train that way? - Basically they just showed up, took their pants off and started lifting? Sounds a little dicey to me.

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I did these rows for the first time yesterday, do you have to go with such a wide stance/grip? my feet were only like 7 or 8 inches apart and my grip had my pinkies each 3/4-1in inside the lines.
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actually now that i take a closer look at the picture that's where his pinkies are too, but his grip just appears much wider than mine was, maybe i just didn't realize it to be the same.
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heres a couple more from the side that show better start and end position. look at the difference in the arch of the back how far the shoulders are pulled back, but no real difference in hip angle.
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heres a couple more from the side that show better start and end position. look at the difference in the arch of the back how far the shoulders are pulled back, but no real difference in hip angle.
Maybe its just the pictures but these pics look like the guy starts with his lower back at least partially rounded, whereas the shirtless kid has a pretty good arch. Is that going to be more of an individual difference?
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