Benching

[kenneth]

my argument is simply that the bench press isn't for pectoral isolation, so why try and make it be? I'm not going to look for some attempt to take glutes out of my squats.

[knockdown]

My shoulder feels great now, it seems that my grip was to damn wide.

[AnimalMass]

Amazing - you mean Gavin and I actually knew what we were talking about?

For those of you guys that don't know, Gavin is one of the smartest guys in the world when it comes to training. And me? Well, I can hold my own in the training world and I bench nearly 600 (all the way to my chest) so maybe it would be a good idea to figure out who on the board knows what they are talking about before you guys disgregard their opinions.

Matt

[kenneth]

Originally Posted by AnimalMass

Amazing - you mean Gavin and I actually knew what we were talking about?

For those of you guys that don't know, Gavin is one of the smartest guys in the world when it comes to training. And me? Well, I can hold my own in the training world and I bench nearly 600 (all the way to my chest) so maybe it would be a good idea to figure out who on the board knows what they are talking about before you guys disgregard their opinions.

Matt

it doesn't take long to figure out who's speaking meaningful words and who's talking out their ass

[monsoon]

Read it again!

Originally Posted by Gavin Laird

Jesus fucking Christ you unworthy bunch of fucking tossers when will you all pull your damn fingers out, stop sucking your thumbs, throw away your baby blankets, stand up without a fucking walker, wipe the snot off your pink lil noses and lift the fucking bar in the manner that was intended ?

It's like the fucking squat myths revisited here - what next ? "I bench with a 3 INCH ROM cause my Uncle Bubba says my chest will become a utopian haven for shaved asian boys if i dont" Cunts. If your technique is so shit that you can not bring the bar to the chest and return it to arms length without feeling something is "wrong" then FIX YOUR FUCKING TECHNIQUE. If you to try and turn the bench press into an exercise that trains pecs to the exclusion of front deltoids then FUCK OFF to the special Island they're building for you where you and your tribal brothers the 1/4 squatters can all hold hants and chant as one "I'll make any excuse possible - just don't make me ACTUALLY LIFT A FUCKING WEIGHT WITH A FULL RANGE OF MOVEMENT CAUSE FRANKLY I'M TERRIFIED OF BEING SEEN TO BE WEAKER THAN ANYONE ELSE"

Get the fuck over it. Yes there are positions in weight lifting in which you will be forced to handle less load / use multiple muscles at once / overcome poor leverages / use some starting strength etc. Thats the idea. If he idea was to cut out any and all positionsa that induced any degree of difficulty then the Iron Game would be the Couch Game and we could all go home and drink bear.

Fuck all y'all. Lift the fucking bar.

G