(BEST OF MESO) what not to do for beginners [Hogg]

[jago25_98]

" And for heaven's sake, if you have Arnold's 'Encyclopedia of Modern
Bodybuilding', burn it....the book is heresy....and you will never
recover from his routines, not even the beginner routines. It is
pointless to go to the gym day after day and beat yourself in to
submission only to find that you are stagnant. Work hard but work smart
and do not allow your zeal and enthusiasm to drag you into an
overtrained state. "

^ I thought this was considered one of the best, if one, the best books the is on the subject.
If you don't follow the routines is it still good? What you're saying is the book is too damanding, not leaving enough time for recovery? Arnie did juice in the old days.

[Phreezer]

That book is total Shit.. Burn it,,,, Trust me...

Get yourself a copy of "Serious Strength training" by Tudor Bompa

[incrediblehulk]

So shallow declines will make my pecs hang?
My chest is allrite but only along one line from heavy barbel bench press. WHat can i do to get it fuller at the top and sides?

I already do hevy incline dumbells After bench.

[JOEFROMCHI]

[quote=Phreezer]Date: 07/18/02 01:18 PM
Author: mark (no profile)
Subject: RE: RE: Hogg

hogg, you FINISH with flies? I'm wondering if anyone
else prefers to start with them for pre-exaustion of the
chest, or if you have any opinions on how much worth is
in this. Thanks alot
(http://www.mesomorphosis.com/forums/...ssage_ID=92248)



HI, BEEN WORKIN OUT SERIOUSLY FOR LIKE ALMOST 3 MONTHS... 5 DAYS A WEEK.... NOTICING RESULTS..... BUT I DONT GET SORE THE NEXT DAY AFTER WORKOUTS THAT MUCH.... IN THE BEGINNING I USED TOG ET SORE LIKE THE FIRST WEEK, NOW NOTHING! MAYBE MY BACK AN TRAPS A LITTLE BIT, BUT MY CHEST NOTHING LIKE BEFORE.... MAYBE I HAVE AN UN USUAL LACTIC ACID LEVELS? PLEASE GIMME AN ANSWER... SOMEONE TOLD ME IF UR NOT GETTIN REAL SORE THEN UR NOT GETTTING A WORK OUT TRUE?FALSE? THANK YOU

[Who's Victor Martinez?]

[quote=JOEFROMCHI]

Originally Posted by Phreezer

Date: 07/18/02 01:18 PM

HI, BEEN WORKIN OUT SERIOUSLY FOR LIKE ALMOST 3 MONTHS... 5 DAYS A WEEK.... NOTICING RESULTS..... BUT I DONT GET SORE THE NEXT DAY AFTER WORKOUTS THAT MUCH.... IN THE BEGINNING I USED TOG ET SORE LIKE THE FIRST WEEK, NOW NOTHING! MAYBE MY BACK AN TRAPS A LITTLE BIT, BUT MY CHEST NOTHING LIKE BEFORE.... MAYBE I HAVE AN UN USUAL LACTIC ACID LEVELS? PLEASE GIMME AN ANSWER... SOMEONE TOLD ME IF UR NOT GETTIN REAL SORE THEN UR NOT GETTTING A WORK OUT TRUE?FALSE? THANK YOU

That guy doesn't know what he's talkin' about. It's not lactic acid anyway. That's completely different. What you feel the next day is just soreness because of muscle damage. You don't nessecarily have to feel that after every workout to be growing. In fact, if it's too severe, you're doing just the opposite.

peace.

[lastchance]

What an awesome post. I'm 40 and have trained for about 20 years. I made so many of thoses mistakes when i was young. Today as an"old man" I think i figured out what works for me, I train one body part each day for 35 to 40 min, I do double up on friday with tri and legs. Now adays i don't want to be the biggest guy. The key for me to figure out is DIET. I am 5' 11" 220, down to 12%bf, and I feel like a million bucks. I see so many young guys over training, eating like shit or under training and eating like shit. You need to eat good clean food to grow and look good. One more thing don't walk around like your lats are sticking out 2 feet unless they are you guys look silly. Again awesome post. Clean, lean and mean!!!!!!!!!!!