Cardio on Mass Cycle

[crunch76]

hey bros, starting my 4th cycle, need some help
my cycles are always mass, dont go for any cutting types and ive never done any cardio on a cycle, i always cut after cycle and after same amount of time has past, time on time off - then cut.

i always feel like i coulda mabey leaned alittle during cycle, im questining my methods, well i have past 2 cycles anyway. this one should i include cardio? how much, mabey twice a week?

and help me with this rumor, ive heard when on alot of test in bulking cycle, cardio can have very bad affect on the heart, permant damage is possible, is that a myth, ive heard some wicked shit about incresase my heart size which in turn shoots up blood pressure becuase of cardio during a mass cycle, anyway any help is aprrecited, what im looking to do is cut down my cut time and not be so fuckin doughy for 5 months, cycle plus time off, dont wana loose gains so im a fat fuck for 5 months, anyway, what do you guys do?

[Bryan Haycock]

Test is going to affect your heart regardless of whether you do cardio or not. The primary cause for “ventricular” hypertrophy is pressure. The highest pressure your heart experiences is not during cardio but during whole body compounds like squats, deadlifts and even leg press. Some studies on the effects of Test on ventricular hypertrophy have found the surprising result that even some guys who have never used Test end up with ventricular hypertrophy comparable to those on Test.

I would suggest you do the cardio, if not for fat loss, at least for your health.

[vegas]

Bryan.....could you expound on the term “ventricular” hypertrophy and its effects long term on the heart. Thanks..Vegas

[thick]

Reversible but long term exposure to HBP etc will cause permanent problems. THis is a link that explains it in easy to understand terms vegas. The last couple of sentences explain the problem with a bigger heart. Most would think a bigger, more muscular heart is a more efficient and healthy heart.


Ventricular Hypertrophy

Ventricular hypertrophy (i.e., increased ventricular mass) is an adaptation by the ventricle to increased stress, such as chronically increased volume load (preload) or increased pressure load (afterload). It is a physiological response that enables the heart to adapt to increased stress; however, the response can become pathological and ultimately lead to a deterioration in function. For example, hypertrophy is a normal physiological adaptation to exercise training that enables the ventricle to enhance its pumping capacity. This type of physiologic hypertrophy is reversible and non-pathological. Chronic hypertension also causes ventricular hypertrophy. This response enables the heart to maintain a normal stroke volume despite the increase in afterload. However, over time, pathological changes occur in the heart that lead to a functional degradation and heart failure.

If the precipitating stress is volume overload, the ventricle responds by adding new sarcomeres in-series with existing sarcomeres. This results in ventricular dilation while maintaining normal sarcomere lengths. The wall thickness normally increases in proportion to the increase in chamber radius. This type of hypertrophy is termed eccentric hypertrophy.

In the case of chronic pressure overload, the chamber radius may not change; however, the wall thickness greatly increases as new sarcomeres are added in-parallel to existing sarcomeres. This is termed concentric hypertrophy. This type of ventricle is capable of generating greater forces and higher pressures, while the increased wall thickness maintains normal wall stress. This type of ventricle becomes "stiff" (i.e., compliance is reduced) which can impair filling and lead to diastolic dysfunction.

[vegas]

Thanks Thick...