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Old 09-10-2005, 07:27 PM
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Ok, i have been lifting on and off for years. Im not the strongest ive been but i build muscle very easily. and the last couple years when i stopped workin out as much and ate unhealthily, tho i always had this problem, it got worse. I think my pecs retain way more fat compared to the rest of my body. About aroudn the nipple and below. I have been working out hard for the past 2 months and eating perfect. i have lost so much and i am getting way more cut now but my pecs still look to fat and semi boob like hahaha when the rest of my body is cut and defined and skinny.
How would u recomend me burn the shit out of my pec/lower pecs to try and get all that fat out of there and kinda shrink them and cut them more?


and question #2, what are the best excerszies for working between pecs, in the tie-ins?
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Ok, i have been lifting on and off for years. Im not the strongest ive been but i build muscle very easily. and the last couple years when i stopped workin out as much and ate unhealthily, tho i always had this problem, it got worse. I think my pecs retain way more fat compared to the rest of my body. About aroudn the nipple and below. I have been working out hard for the past 2 months and eating perfect. i have lost so much and i am getting way more cut now but my pecs still look to fat and semi boob like hahaha when the rest of my body is cut and defined and skinny.
How would u recomend me burn the shit out of my pec/lower pecs to try and get all that fat out of there and kinda shrink them and cut them more?


and question #2, what are the best excerszies for working between pecs, in the tie-ins?
thank you again

you cant spot reduce fat at the pec area. also maybe you have gyno
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Can you say lyposuction

I have a similar problem that is not gyno. As a last resort I've been thinking about using Clenbuterol and/or T3, but I'm still going to give adding a bit more cardio per week a little more chance to see if the stubborn fat will go away.
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you cant spot reduce fat at the pec area. also maybe you have gyno
hmm how would i get gyno, im a young male, very very fit athletically, high test i think, bloomed late.


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Can you say lyposuction

I have a similar problem that is not gyno. As a last resort I've been thinking about using Clenbuterol and/or T3, but I'm still going to give adding a bit more cardio per week a little more chance to see if the stubborn fat will go away.
no way, im skinny its just i have an excess of fat at the nip level.
whats the best thing to use for cuts for a short term thing?
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As stated earlier, you could have developed gyno, regardless of gear use or the lack thereof. But at the same time, you could be someone whose prone to carrying fat in that area. Myself, I could have manboobs and still have a 6 pack.

To be honest, you may have to simply diet more. Truly "stubborn" fat areas will take longer than 2 months to dissipate. I'm not sure what you are using as a fat loss aid, if you are. But if not, some EC would be good along with Yohimbine HCL and Tyramine. If you can take that much stimulation of course. Start with EC, add the Yo in increments. Many can't take Yo's effects.

As for exercises to "work the tie-ins". Forget about that nonsense. Work the big exercises (perhaps I should say exercise), and let the fat loss bring out the tie in. That's really what brings it out.
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I had gyno during the early teen (ages ~14/15) years. No idea what it was at the time....thought I had breast cancer....lol. Sometimes guys get it even without the use of gear. You could just have high estrogen levels. Remember, high test levels does NOT mean you have low estrogen, you can have high levels of both.....test. will not reduce gyno or prevent it.

Or, you could just be holding regular fat there. In that case, you're just going to have to keep hitting the cardio to burn the fat off. As stated before, you can't burn fat from one specific area....your body will burn fat in a pattern which differs from person to person.

One way to check if it's gyno is to see whether or not the area is sensitive. Also, fat is usually mush and easily moved around....with gyno, I found that my nipples were extremely sensitive and also hard pertrusions from behind the nips. Check to see which it is....
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alright, since nobody bothered helping with the training aspect of it, i will. To build a perfect chest you have to work out the whole chest; including flat, incline and decline. To make your chest give the apperance you want you have to increase the size of your upper chest. for most of my excerises i do sets of 3X8, but i too wanted to flatten out my chest so i changed my workout to be flatbench 3X8, incline bench, 4X6, and decline bench 3X10. I also make sure to include incline fly's for 3X8. And let me tell you i've seen a dramatic improvement in my chest that i thought i'd never see in only 6 weeks. Its not a strengthening program to say the least, but it will give you the chest you've always wanted.
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alright, since nobody bothered helping with the training aspect of it, i will. To build a perfect chest you have to work out the whole chest; including flat, incline and decline. To make your chest give the apperance you want you have to increase the size of your upper chest. for most of my excerises i do sets of 3X8, but i too wanted to flatten out my chest so i changed my workout to be flatbench 3X8, incline bench, 4X6, and decline bench 3X10. I also make sure to include incline fly's for 3X8. And let me tell you i've seen a dramatic improvement in my chest that i thought i'd never see in only 6 weeks. Its not a strengthening program to say the least, but it will give you the chest you've always wanted.
thanx bro ill be sure to try that out post haste!

so im guessing when u say 3X8 etc, u mean 3 sets of 8? etc.

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Yea, 3 sets of 8. Also include another excersise or two to your preference.. if you want a leaner chest do a compound set at the end. Cable cross-overs for 8 and pushups to failure.
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ricknash - for your own sake, please ignore goku's advice. Sorry goku, but you are spouting from a well of misinformation. I will agree that you aren't doing a strengthening routine, for sure. Who could with that many exercises. "PERHAPS" you could use a different exercise for the chest, with each successive workout, but never 3-4 in the same workout.

I will stop here, as it could be a long response. I and others mentioned the proper advice previously. PLEASE heed it.
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...stop eating so much. No exercise, compounded, supersetted, upsidedowned, over the topped or any other variety will have any effect on the bf level of your chest. The only exercise which will benefit you in that regard is "table pushaways", and all they entail is pushing your ass away from the dinner table.
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ricknash - for your own sake, please ignore goku's advice. Sorry goku, but you are spouting from a well of misinformation. I will agree that you aren't doing a strengthening routine, for sure. Who could with that many exercises. "PERHAPS" you could use a different exercise for the chest, with each successive workout, but never 3-4 in the same workout.

I will stop here, as it could be a long response. I and others mentioned the proper advice previously. PLEASE heed it.
let me guess.. you're one of "those people" that walk around doing 5 different body parts. Thats not the way to train. You do chest, and you do it hard. Give it a weeks rest and do it hard again. No questions asked. If you've lifted long enough, than you can do a body part twice a week. Until then, leave the advice to a personal trainer (my best friends are twins, both personal trainers), not a novice.
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...stop eating so much. No exercise, compounded, supersetted, upsidedowned, over the topped or any other variety will have any effect on the bf level of your chest. The only exercise which will benefit you in that regard is "table pushaways", and all they entail is pushing your ass away from the dinner table.
that should be commen sense for him.. that and running.
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let me guess.. you're one of "those people" that walk around doing 5 different body parts. Thats not the way to train. You do chest, and you do it hard. Give it a weeks rest and do it hard again. No questions asked. If you've lifted long enough, than you can do a body part twice a week. Until then, leave the advice to a personal trainer (my best friends are twins, both personal trainers), not a novice.
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Thanks Grizz....I'm bowing out now.
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